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stronghandman, the red sucks hairy ass..now tell all your freinds..

pigsteak, you're a fucking idiot. i like your quote, "it's enduro climinb, not technique based". that's great! i don't think i could sum up a better description for super slab or swahili slang, or soul ram, or out on a limb, or prime directive, or mr. get it on jones, or armageddon, or...

keep going hofo, to justify your existence...wow, now we have 6 "technical" routes out of what, 1500?

its a generalization you moron. most routes at the red have more than one sequence for the crux. most routes have intermediate holds for those who are short. most routes have 10-15 choices for feet on every move. body english is not as important as keeping the pump off.

experience a few new areas, and widen your horizons...the Red is not even close to being a technical area...

Yeah Ho, you really need to get out and climb more man... clearly you haven't spent the last year doing ONLY that... I'm gonna have to go ahead and side with Pigsteak on that one...

now yas, did I say that? did I actually say for ho to get out and climb more? didn't think so...

nope, said go experience more areas...now if ho has been travelling the globe for the last year, then I stand corrected, and amazed he would still consider the Red a technical area...

i love the Red immensely, but I also recognize it for what it is..a damn awesome endurance climbing crag.

He really has been travelling and climbing all over the country since about March, Pigsteak. I didn't mean he's just been climbing at the Red this whole time.

I wonder if the climbers who get sick of their home crag at "technical" climbing areas say stuff like "Man, if want to get a rest after every five feet then fill_in_the_blank_home_crag just might be the best place on earth to climb!" or "Any fat fucker who can put together three moves and then have a ten minute rest to think about the next three moves can climb here!"

I mean, since when is enduro-climbing so "uncool"? Is it since Climbing and Rock and Ice photographers gave up their ascenders and zoom lenses for fish-eyeball lenses to make the boulder problems look longer? Is it since Sharma started toting his crashpad around more than his rope and draws?

Is everyone really influenced that much by what the mags throw down your throat? Bouldering and tech-routes have been around for fucking AGES! I mean, 90% of the people who claim to be "boulderers" and diss on roped climbing and enduro-routes couldn't get their weak asses up Midnight Lighting if they tried. That problem was put up like what....25 years ago or something? And probably on a rest day or before a big wall ascent!

Fucking trendy ass motherfuckers.

Since when is enduro-climbing so "easy"? I just love how people talk about it like endurance is just so easy to build. Shit man, I think it's easier to string an eight move boulder problem together than to remember 36 moves of V3 and perform them quick enough so you don't fall on the V1 finish going for the anchors!

Trends just kill me. Soon it will be "Ya braw, that route is just like so un-pumpy braw. You need to get out of SOOOOO-ILLLLL braw and get some enduro braw!"

thanks yas! I stand corrected. eveyone have a great weekend climbing!!!!