Sucking at Torrent Falls- Bare Metal Teen

[THB]

Why stop there?? Why not just take the guidebook rating and drop it down one grade??

(With a few exceptions...)
Ro Shampo, Wild Yet Tasty, Hardcore Jollies, Burliers Bane = 11c
(I'm sure you could come up with more exceptions that could go down 2 instead of 1 grade)

We could play this game all night long...

[tania]

Why stop there?? Why not just take the guidebook rating and drop it down one grade??

I'd sign off on that.

[climb2core]

15 votes put Steelworker at 12c and 2 at 12d. A whopping zero put it at 12b. Either the route plays well to your strengths, or you worked the shit out of it

[Brentucky]

I don't know... I don't find that move that hard on Freakin Deacon. But long dynamic throws to good holds is my bread and butter.

So if that move isn't that hard, then why is your name not on the spray list? The rest of the climb is pretty mellow. It could be I just didn't find the appropriate beta, but I thought the dynamic move was from some piss poor holds (for a 12a that is).

[tbwilsonky]

sussing out the micro-differences between 12's. how quaint.

[tania]

Yeah, I worked it a lot, but why does that matter?? Does a letter grade really make that much of a difference? I'd rather have routes graded so that there is never a chance of downgrading, ever, than have something graded to fluff my ego.

[pigsteak]

sussing out the micro-differences between 12's. how quaint.

I was just thinking the same thing..this is how us wee peasants play da game...

more frightening to me is that brentucky has an obsession with checking on people's spray lists, and when he calls to go climbing, the first sentence out of his mouth has the word 'points" in it......sigh....bro, for real?

[climb2core]

Yeah, I worked it a lot, but why does that matter?? Does a letter grade really make that much of a difference? I'd rather have routes graded so that there is never a chance of downgrading, ever, than have something graded to fluff my ego.

How about just grading it accurately and let the chips fall where they may. I don't think the grade should have anything to do with someone's ego.

[stix]

why are we arguing of the grades of warmups? that whole wall is rad. just do em, walk over to c & s to grab a beer, do em again, share one with bob if he's around, give thanks for not having to climb in weber world, and call it a day.

[steep4me]

Ok, Meadows is correct...do not rest after the pumpy 5.5 slab approach to the route or you will not be able to claim the send 8)
verdict? ..... Still not pumpy.