Why don't you repeat the rest of the quote instead of pointing out the obvious. Wait I'll do it for you...Ascentionist wrote:Ah, you're that Joe. It all makes sense now.Clevis Hitch wrote:
People have gone after me on this board and got me banned over the things I said and I never really did any harm
Free Soloing. What is your view?
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Clevis Hitch wrote: People have gone after me on this board and got me banned over the things I said and I never really did any harm yet you fuckers will get on here and for no other reason than to BRAG about how big you think your dick is and potentially get someone killed!! True piece of SHIT!!
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I'd love for this thread to get thrown into the Hijacked forum where not just any gumby can see how stupid you are. Moderators please lock this stupid thread and put it in the hijacked forum.
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The reason I asked what people thought about free soloing is because this is a subject that will be talked about. When I tell someone in my rural hometown that I rock climb, an inevetable question that follows, whether as the first question or the third, is, "with ropes right?"
It is part of our sport. It is like the condom handout statement you made Clevis. If you tell someone, as a teenager, that you are having sex an inevitable question that follows is, "you're using protection, right?"
Who ever said that nubbies are attracted to things that experienced climbers aren't is speaking truth about what inspired me in my seminal climbing experience. The only thing I knew of climbing at the time I did it (late 90s) was some fuzzy memories of watching "Cliffhanger" at the Irvington drive-in when I was ten, and some news reports about the spiderman character that climbs skyscrapers. I knew nothing of protection. Just like a teenage boy staring at his first set of boobs, I stared at this chimney that I knew I could climb. I had a climbing hard on with no idea how to release the pressure except to climb it off. I talked my two buddies to follow me up, and where I was getting high on the climb they were freaking out half way up.
So in that case I was in the purest rule set for climbing. I was selfish, I had no beta, no chalk, and I was not using climbing shoes. I had no experience, just a desire to get to the top. That is probably how the first climbers did it.
I agree with Meadows now. With age I have learned to use protection because I have learned to use my other head. That young and dumb part of me has deflated, and now a child has changed my view even more.
When I looked back at the climb I did I thought I was dumb as could be. My memory glorifies my action like a teenagers first sexual experience. It was sloppy and dangerous and there were a lot of risk factors that I did not take into consideration. But my memory says it was bad to the bone. I was very stupid and having two friends follow me up was even more stupid. (They wouldn't follow me back down though).
There is no way to educate the masses in how risky free soloing is. But it is sort of a "here's you sign" moment when someone bets the farm and loses. I feel not as sorry for them as I do their family. I feel even less sorry for an experienced climber. I don't think they should be a martyr for their sport. Even though I do know that there is a rush, and like I said, I might even do a highball or two, and definitely some DWS, but the risk of moving outside of what Bachar called zone 2 is too much for me personnally. I agree that soloing shouldn't be glorified, but it should be talked about responsibly. I accept what a soloist does too, because on some level, they accept the risks.
PS I think this has been some good debate.
It is part of our sport. It is like the condom handout statement you made Clevis. If you tell someone, as a teenager, that you are having sex an inevitable question that follows is, "you're using protection, right?"
Who ever said that nubbies are attracted to things that experienced climbers aren't is speaking truth about what inspired me in my seminal climbing experience. The only thing I knew of climbing at the time I did it (late 90s) was some fuzzy memories of watching "Cliffhanger" at the Irvington drive-in when I was ten, and some news reports about the spiderman character that climbs skyscrapers. I knew nothing of protection. Just like a teenage boy staring at his first set of boobs, I stared at this chimney that I knew I could climb. I had a climbing hard on with no idea how to release the pressure except to climb it off. I talked my two buddies to follow me up, and where I was getting high on the climb they were freaking out half way up.
So in that case I was in the purest rule set for climbing. I was selfish, I had no beta, no chalk, and I was not using climbing shoes. I had no experience, just a desire to get to the top. That is probably how the first climbers did it.
I agree with Meadows now. With age I have learned to use protection because I have learned to use my other head. That young and dumb part of me has deflated, and now a child has changed my view even more.
When I looked back at the climb I did I thought I was dumb as could be. My memory glorifies my action like a teenagers first sexual experience. It was sloppy and dangerous and there were a lot of risk factors that I did not take into consideration. But my memory says it was bad to the bone. I was very stupid and having two friends follow me up was even more stupid. (They wouldn't follow me back down though).
There is no way to educate the masses in how risky free soloing is. But it is sort of a "here's you sign" moment when someone bets the farm and loses. I feel not as sorry for them as I do their family. I feel even less sorry for an experienced climber. I don't think they should be a martyr for their sport. Even though I do know that there is a rush, and like I said, I might even do a highball or two, and definitely some DWS, but the risk of moving outside of what Bachar called zone 2 is too much for me personnally. I agree that soloing shouldn't be glorified, but it should be talked about responsibly. I accept what a soloist does too, because on some level, they accept the risks.
PS I think this has been some good debate.
"Come to send, not condescend" - Eddie Vedder
NO! He's not that joe - no way no how! Just because he also lives above solar collector and shoots at bigfoot noises is reason to stereotype a guy!Ascentionist wrote:Ah, you're that Joe. It all makes sense now.Clevis Hitch wrote:
People have gone after me on this board and got me banned over the things I said and I never really did any harm
At 4:36 pm, Ascentionist wrote:You're an idiot. I was lucky, very lucky. And I was about 16 years younger than I am now. I wasn't romanticizing it you moron, but pointing out how stupid it was.Clevis Hitch wrote:
Bragging every bit of it! You got lucky. Period. The problem I have with your whole experience is that you romantize it.
And now, for even more fun, I'm going to ignore everything else you ever post.
Better luck next time.At 4:39 pm, Ascentionist wrote:Ah, you're that Joe. It all makes sense now.Clevis Hitch wrote:
People have gone after me on this board and got me banned over the things I said and I never really did any harm
"I snatched defeat from the jaws of victory." --Paul
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how can this be thrown into the hijacked thread forum. It was started to stop a hijacking. you cant hijack a hijacked thread... right??? this is the most action RRC.com as had in a while... could it be because Joe is BACK! i agree that he has nothing good to say, but fuck we all love (hate) to read it... right??? keep the shit coming!
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