Saxman said the other day something relevant to this thread: At the cliff, we talk about anything but climbing - politics, family, work, etc. At parties (away from the cliff) we talk about nothing but climbing.
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Whatahutch I really agree with the way you live your life. Checking everything out, giving 10 percent, spending time with family, your positive outlook. Good stuff. I would say you are in balance with yourself and people around you.
On the other end of the spectrum....I am shaking my head NO.no no no. Why would this guy want to suck at everything. Just floating around like a butterfly. Dabbling in all the pretty pursuits. Isn't that nice. La La La. O look boxing. I just got hit in the face. Cool. Maybe I should get a little better at this. Nah. Wee. Climbing. Ah yes cliimbing. So interesting. Maybe I will try that. Maybe I will just fly in the face of people that are dedicated to this "ego" sport........I want to bash that butterfly.
I am glad you are not like me. Is that so I can climb a little better than you? I doubt it. I have climbing friends of a variety of skill levels. I am glad because I genuinely enjoyed reading your post.
On the other end of the spectrum....I am shaking my head NO.no no no. Why would this guy want to suck at everything. Just floating around like a butterfly. Dabbling in all the pretty pursuits. Isn't that nice. La La La. O look boxing. I just got hit in the face. Cool. Maybe I should get a little better at this. Nah. Wee. Climbing. Ah yes cliimbing. So interesting. Maybe I will try that. Maybe I will just fly in the face of people that are dedicated to this "ego" sport........I want to bash that butterfly.
I am glad you are not like me. Is that so I can climb a little better than you? I doubt it. I have climbing friends of a variety of skill levels. I am glad because I genuinely enjoyed reading your post.
a bell shaped curve of knowledge is certainly better than a delta function but if its too broad you really know nothing.
oh and hutch, would fighting be considered an ego sport by your standards? I bet you walk around flexing and thinking your a bad ass at the bar after you get hit in the face a few times.
oh and hutch, would fighting be considered an ego sport by your standards? I bet you walk around flexing and thinking your a bad ass at the bar after you get hit in the face a few times.
How you compare may not be as important as to whom you are compared
Just because you climb with someone, even regularly, doesn't mean they are a friend. And, if you have ever listened to how climbers talk about other climbers when they are not there, you would be surprised to see them interact at the cliff - might even think they are good friends, even though the just spent 20 minutes talking about how they hate the other person before they got there...
I *know* a whole lot of people. I have climbed with a whole lot of people, and I even kinda like a whole lot of people. But, very few of them are actual friends.
I *know* a whole lot of people. I have climbed with a whole lot of people, and I even kinda like a whole lot of people. But, very few of them are actual friends.
"There is no secret ingredient"
Po, the kung fu panda
Po, the kung fu panda
agreedwhatahutch wrote:They need pursuits outside of climbing, boxing, church, family.
you mean like fucking other people? hmm. not everyone rolls like that, hutch.whatahutch wrote:That is why relationship coaches and psyciatrist say it is good for people inside of a relationship to have personal goals seperate from the relationship. It creates balance.
say wha?whatahutch wrote:I am sorry if that offends, and if it does then you should probably take your singular climbing pursuit to the next level. For people that follow Christ, who devote their sigular pursuit to Him, they usually give ten percent of their income to their church.
I wonder how many climber who commit their life to the sport would actually do that? Would you send ten percent of your income, straight off the top before you pay your bills, to the RRGCC every month?
If climbing is your life, make it your life then.
maybe caribe is right. we need a climber messiah.
buy the Ticket take the Ride
What Wes said.
Clearly my idea of friendship is a little different. I've been hanging with mostly climbers for a long, long time and still manage to maintain strong relationships with people from before I was a climber and with others I've met since I was a climber. Lifelong friends are exactly that.
Of course I don't see a lot of them as much as I want to but every time we get together we pick it up just like it was last week. "Friends" to me are as important as family. Do you still manage to make time for your parents/siblings?
Clearly my idea of friendship is a little different. I've been hanging with mostly climbers for a long, long time and still manage to maintain strong relationships with people from before I was a climber and with others I've met since I was a climber. Lifelong friends are exactly that.
Of course I don't see a lot of them as much as I want to but every time we get together we pick it up just like it was last week. "Friends" to me are as important as family. Do you still manage to make time for your parents/siblings?
i think to answer this we need to define "friend" like we define "send," and we all know where that goes! i think what tutu said is close enough for me, but then you have to define "emergency." sometimes it's just a climbing emergency as in "holy shit i need to climb." those are the times i thank god for ahab and kramp (listed in alphabetical order so as not to offend my friend) 
efil lanrete... i enjoy the sound, but in truth i find this seductively backward idea to be quite frightening