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as long as they don't trash my fun areas with garbage, tickmarks, ass-hat dogs, etc....

don't forget poop

poops cool, i got this german girl thats into wierd shit like that. no pun intended.

Trad's bringing the fun back for me. I started out climbing as it was a blast - then got serious about meeting goals and pushing myself - and have gone full-circle.

It's all about enjoying the day.

NOTE Glad I already had my kids (and they were older) when I started climbing. And since I'm old now I can live vicariously through their teenage partying, philandering and shinanegans...

poops cool, i got this german girl thats into wierd shit like that. no pun intended.

You take that back!!!!
Shenanigans!!!

is heidiramma code for diarrhea?

Uh NO!
Hey, uh wanna box?

I think there is a second part to this question. Is your dream grade different from your climbing goals? For example, I currently climb moderate 12 and my goal is to climb 13b, which I think is obtainable. But my dream would be to climb 14a and beyond, but I doubt that will be obtainable due to other things in life. Just curious?

Danny wrote:

heidiramma wrote:Uh NO!
Hey, uh wanna box?

I would but I'm really old and have a headache.

I mean, bring it goldilocks.

I agree with wolfman and ahab - to be able to gracefully glide up a route, regardless of grade, is a goal, in addition to the main reason, to enjoy myself.

Why be happy to do the hard stuff, and perhaps much less eloquently - just to say I can? Grade varies and technique adapts to the challenge, but can still have precision and beauty. That's my take.

I dream to fly, but the reality is that I only climb.