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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:54 pm
by SCIN
You already said you take supplements. You're sounding like a politician.

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:01 pm
by Meadows
bcombs wrote:Not if you drink the sugar free kind. :) Also, I'm pretty sure a day at the cliff and you will burn off the 200 or so calories in a red bull.
[I think I've posted this before - sorry] A study done recently at Purdue University tied artificial sweeteners to weight gain. The reason? Our bodies have evolved to get the metabolism ball rolling when the brain gets a sweet signal. The brain expects calories to follow, but when they don't (because artificial sweeteners are no calorie), the brain slows down the metabolism. Not good when the real calories that follow are a Hardees "Thick Burger."

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=pu ... sweeteners

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:33 pm
by bcombs
If you think sugar free red bull tastes sweet, more power to ya! To me it tastes like a chemistry class experiement gone wrong.

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:44 pm
by the lurkist
the only thing I have used that verges on cheating would be Pseudo ephedrine. Then it only gave me a little edge because I was really close to doing the route. It did increase the snap a tad.
Creatine works too.

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:36 pm
by SCIN
Lurk, doesn't creatine cause water retention which leads to additional weight?

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:43 pm
by captain static
I know that I have mentioned Ultra Fuel http://www.twinlabfuel.com/wcm/mb/fuel/ ... /index.jsp on here before. It is the only thing that I have found that meets Horst's requirements for glycogen replacement. If you are truly climbing / training in a power mode you need to replace glycogen to prevent your muscles from being catabolized.

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:56 pm
by Shamis
SCIN wrote:Lurk, doesn't creatine cause water retention which leads to additional weight?
I've read that small amounts of it when taken at the appropriate time can be beneficial to climbers without causing any significant weight gain. I think there was an article in climbing about it sometime in the last year or two.

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:09 am
by flashmaster
you guys are all friggin pussies. Just eat some chicken, eggs, and once in a while some red meat and a bunch of veggies. All those stupid supplements do is make you grow titties and make your voice higher. Just eat healthy and keep doing what your doing and you'll be stronger than ever. Supplements are for bitches!! unless its alcohol and hookers

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:16 am
by 512OW
bcombs wrote:If you think sugar free red bull tastes sweet, more power to ya! To me it tastes like a chemistry class experiement gone wrong.
Yes! It works because it tastes like medicine.

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:37 am
by Fartspray