Lady Slipper / Danger to climbers.

Post by **Saxman** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:12 pm

You do know that people die from e-coli quite regularly right? By your logic, the right thing to do would therefore be to close the routes since we can't risk pissing off the locals and we can't risk people getting sick and/or contaminating all of their gear and getting the people they climb with in the future sick.

Post by **charlie** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:26 pm

Good point, you got me there. I forgot the biggest threat to climbing and life in general in the RRG is the e-coli at Global Village.

Life is about efforts and effects. There are things you do, and things you don't do. Personally, I like to think about my efforts in terms of the payoffs and the damages of my actions. This thinking may be too out of the box for you though.

Feel free to continue to talk about saving the world however you think you should but don't flatter yourself in thinking you are capable of pigeonholing (or apparently even grasping) my logic.

Post by **gneiss** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:00 pm

I've been shitting on these emerald city climbs for years. this is nothing new

Post by **gneiss** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:23 pm

speaking of which, any of you folks know how the rocketdog got it's name?

Post by **Jeff** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:46 pm

Saxman wrote:Can anyone else confirm Jeff's observation on increased water run off or is it possibly bad luck on his visits?

What's luck have to do with it?

Post by **john e aragon** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:25 pm

Do what you all want, believe what you want. Make fun of my piss poor typing and grammer skill. But I am telling you if you make trouble for those people we all will regret it!

Post by **Jeff** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:38 pm

Agreed, drop it.
Not sure how this thread got out of hand.
Never seems to happen in other threads!

Post by **Ascentionist** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:23 pm

Private locally owned land complete with cabins. Get over it.

Post by **Saxman** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:26 am

Charlie, I don't want to understand someone who could so selfishly dismiss such an issue. There is no moral rationalization in ignoring something that could make many people ill.

Post by **512OW** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:00 am

captain static wrote:
anticlmber wrote:last known it was forest service land. theres even a little marker saying so when you enter the woods. the top is private, the tbottom is public.
The question is have you seen a Forest Service marker at the top of the cliff? Fortunately, unlike a lot of private land in the area, the Forest Service has good surveys and boundary marks. Give me a chance to find out from them where the boundary is in this area and then proceed based on this knowledge. Ultimately, if private development is impacting Forest Service land, that would be the Forest Service's problem to deal with, not ours.

I do believe I've seen an FS marker on top of the crag, near the walkup around left. Theres a gully you can scramble up, and I'm nearly positive I've seen signs up there...