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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:25 pm
by Saxman
longlegsrule wrote:It may scrunch my harness down more and make two points of pressure on my locker but nothing gets attached to me without going through my belay loop and my harness....even when I rap my webbing gets put through my harness and not my belay loop....call me paranoid.

Am I the only one that does this stuff? :shock:
No, but it is not necessary and actually is not optimal if you believe the engineers at Petzl who put out all of that nice literature most people don't read.

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:27 pm
by Saxman
I have a funny experiment. How many loops of duct tape will get you to the strength of a real belay loop?

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:54 pm
by pigsteak
27

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:19 pm
by rockman
we need more testing on this.

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:27 pm
by ReachHigh
can we get real world testing on the duct tape?

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:04 pm
by Shamis
1 failure point is bad.

The only single failure point should be the rope.

also, if anybody can, please donate some cash to help buy pigsteak a new harness, cause he scares me when he belays my fat ass off of his duct taped belay loop...

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:29 pm
by kek-san
Yeah, It scares me too, but then I remember the sage words of Terry. "Don't fall, Don't get pumped, and most importantly stop sucking." Then I don't worry about it, 'cause I know I won't have to test it.

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:24 pm
by pigsteak
it's not duct tape..it is the white athletic tape. if it can hold your finger tendons in place, surely it can hold my harness together.

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:28 pm
by Wes
Shamis wrote:1 failure point is bad.

The only single failure point should be the rope.
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heh, you probably should avoid most of the sport lines in the red then. As, there are many, many of them where there are many "single points of failure" between you and the ground.

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:32 pm
by kirker
The whole thought of belaying from anything, but the "belay loop" seems a little over kill.

I'm sure that what ever force is going to break my belay loop will jerk my 190lb ass up before the loop breaks lessing the fall facture.

With that seid and the results from the tests ran by Wildcountry, and those fall facture tests ran by Weber should put anyone's worry to rest.