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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:11 pm
by C'est Si Bon
How about instead of kicking the dog or bitching about it under your breath and to your partner, if a dog is a problem just ask the owner to put it on a leash. I find it hard to believe that any dog owner would refuse.
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:16 pm
by mcrib
This is why I don't climb on the weekends. I'll just say this. If my dog ever bit anyone or was ever aggressive and growled it would be on a leash. If your only arguement is the classic stepping on the rope arguement your never going to win me over. Your rope is on the ground like your feet and both people and dogs step on your feet.
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:25 pm
by Meadows
I love dogs at the crag, but I hate when a vociferous dog keeps me from communicating with my belayer (or my climber with me) ... and that has been the case many times with dogs and with people. I'm carrying a bugle from now on.
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:27 pm
by overhung
One of my partners, Walrus, has an awesome dog, Ace. Ace is about as trained and tamed a dog as I've ever seen. However, if there were someone about who absolutely feared dogs, whether rationally or irrationally, he'd put it on a leash... I think. It's not about anything other than being considerate to someone else. My daughter, for example, was jumped in the dark by a neighbor's dog. Ever since then she just is afraid of dogs. I could tell her that it's irrational and that she has nothing to be afraid of, but that doesn't help. Let's say we're at the crag to have a fun day of climbing and a roaming dog is around. I can say that she would not have a good time and would be pressuring me to leave. That's not fair to anyone. If the dog were tied up she'd be fine. Hope she gets over it one day, but for now she's still afraid.
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:33 pm
by Meadows
Here's a trick I do when I get ambushed by a dog while cycling: squirt them with water. That'll get them off your rope, out of your face while you're eating or get them to shut up. And it doesn't hurt them.
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:37 pm
by Christian
Meadows wrote:Here's a trick I do when I get ambushed by a dog while cycling: squirt them with water. That'll get them off your rope, out of your face while you're eating or get them to shut up. And it doesn't hurt them.
good point Meadows. It really is that simple. Vinegar works too or for a particularly aggressive dog one of those high pitched horns. Of course the horn may be a bit invasive for the leader at a crux.
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:42 pm
by Wes
DMX wrote:My niggaz this is for my dogs, this is for my dogs
This is for my dogs, this is for my dogs
This is for my dogs, this is for my dogs
This is for my dogs my niggaz
My dogs the beginning of this bloodline of mine
That spark this in a niggaz heart and cause him to shine
Before the rhyme lessons that I keep in my mind
I owe you and I give my right hand to show you
Whether it’s fist or guns whatever it go to
Its me they go through if ever they want to
I’d light the flame, dead game and trying to scratch
K-a-s I know where my dogs is at
And I’m gonna be the one behind just to keep you on your toes
I be your extra eyes and hold you down around your foes
I be your extra gun you need me let me know
For my dogs I be the first to cock it back and let it go
They do it for the dough me I do it for the love
You my nigga to the death so I treat you like my blood
If push comes to shove and they try to send you back to the street
I give my last to put you back on your feet, feel me
Chorus:
This is for my dogs, this is for my dogs
This is for my dogs, this is for my dogs
This is for my dogs, this is for my dogs
This is for my dogs? my niggaz
(repeat 1x)
You my dog nigga I die for
Shit bust a five for see the judge and lie for
You the type of nigga I throw weight up on the block for
Just go ahead and lock jaws and your half I got yours
Send in the dog I smell it all night
I told niggaz to shut up and write x barks with a hell of a bite
For the love they always will be till they kill me
I put my thugs on it and slide till I die on it
And to my motherfuckin dogs big ups to your first share
Niggaz know the deal just waitin for them plaques to get shipped
Do your thing nigga you know we got your back
Cause real dogs always return with food for the pack
Why these wack niggaz swingin when they gonna miss
Take it from me he was nice before all this
Yo x rain on em cause after that comes the blood
Ruff ryders feed all they dogs wit raw blood
Chorus
My people show love (what!) and haven’t left me stranded yet
Though I have a death wish it ain’t been granted yet
So until then I’m gonna be that nigga all up in your chest (come on!)
Until the lord decides to lay my ass down to rest
Bless my body at the funeral and hope I don’t burn
Was a hard headed nigga and nope I don’t learn
Saw the truth but chose to ignore it wasn’t goin for it
My nigga had to give it to me (ahh!) then I saw it
This is clear as day I know here’s the day
I’m gonna be on my way nothin more to say
But take me lord make me lord what you will
Really wanted to chill but learned how to kill
Been downhill from then on cause I been on
Some shit hit on every move to get ten on
The next sac but you know thats how x act
Thats why these street niggaz is waitin for the next track
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:46 pm
by gunslnga
ambushed by a dog while cycling: squirt them with water. That'll get them off your rope, out of your face while you're eating or get them to shut up.
Vinegar works too or for a particularly aggressive dog one of those high pitched horns
should all this be necessary just to climb,ride,etc???? Does anyone have all this extra room to carry vinegar/water with vinegar, police you own area and control your dog, plain and simple........
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:52 pm
by Meadows
gunslnga, yes. This may come as a surprise to you, but the world doesn't operate according to your wishes. So when life throws you lemons, make lemonade, put it in a bottle and aim it at a dog.
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:22 pm
by gunslnga
This may come as a surprise to you, but the world doesn't operate according to your wishes
I just thinks it's insane that you actually believe I should have to change my plans on what I pack and where I go in the Gorge to climb based on whether I may get bitten by a dog. I am ready for anything that happens to me/my party when I'm in the Red, thats's called responsibility. I don't block trails, I keep my gear in close and I have never left trash in the Gorge, so I have just as much right to exist here as anyone. I love dogs, I have worked closely with Explosive sniffing dog's in the Military, the first thing they're handlers told me was that no matter how well trained they're dogs seem, they are still dog's. Why is it always that the mentality on here is for or against??? I do not take sides, I am on my own side, I get along with everyone irreguardless of political stance, religious beliefs, and what have you, but damn, I will not except being bitten by a dog someone brought there and did not tie up while they are climbing/belaying. I would never intentionally hurt a human/dog unless I felt threatened and in a corner, however I will not use vinegar/water if I'm attacked by a dog, which did almost happen at RRO in front of 3 people who then warned me he would bite, after the fact. This is not a baseless statement intended to create drama on here, just stating fact...as always my 2 cents