Do some manual counting:
Look at some of Ray's stats on each of the routes at roadside.
Find which ones got the most ascents.
Take the top 3 locations.
Plan out the best and most suitable anti-deterioration means.
Set a date.
Gather.
Place someone in charge of the plan.
Many hands make light work.
That's the only I could come up with after a long day of work. OH, yeah... and a VERY VERY BIG THANK YOU to both. AWOL belongs to me.
! Enough with all that detestation ALREADY !
Smile & be thankful for what you have.
yeah, roadside is so 1999, and the lode is so yesterday.... where else can we (cough, cough) environmentally friendly climbers go to destroy vegetation with our pursuits?
Anyway, it would be great if we can get a work crew together. Perhaps the people with experience could get together, draw up plans, provide them to Grant and John for approval. Then, if you post the needed materials we could all pitch in to bring what we can.
I can provide a strong back, weak mind and a willingness to work. I don't know a thing about preventing erosion. I might be able to pick up some of the materials too.
Jesus only knows that she tries too hard. She's only trying to keep the sky from falling.
This is an example of what I was referring to in regards to the use of geosynthetics in slope stabilization & erosion control: http://www.tensarcorp.com/index.asp?id=132
"Be responsible for your actions and sensitive to the concerns of other visitors and land managers. ... Your reward is the opportunity to climb in one of the most beautiful areas in this part of the country." John H. Bronaugh
Oh shit, are you a frikkin' Tensar rep? (if you are, that's cool. Everybody has to work for somebody). Man, those SOB's tried their damnedest to go over the Transportation Cabinet's head to FORCE us to use them on road projects. Everybody has to have their piece of the pie I guess. Oh, don't forget the soil nails and retaining walls. Hell, while we are at it, how about some MSE walls? What's our budget? You give me enough money and I can find someone who can make the ledges at any cliff so indestructible, I couldn't even tear them up.... and I have been known to fuck up an anvil.
Mj
...quitting drinking is kinda like washing your hands after you take a crap...why start now?
SikMonkey wrote:Oh shit, are you a frikkin' Tensar rep? (if you are, that's cool. Everybody has to work for somebody). Man, those SOB's tried their damnedest to go over the Transportation Cabinet's head to FORCE us to use them on road projects. Everybody has to have their piece of the pie I guess. Oh, don't forget the soil nails and retaining walls. Hell, while we are at it, how about some MSE walls? What's our budget? You give me enough money and I can find someone who can make the ledges at any cliff so indestructible, I couldn't even tear them up.... and I have been known to fuck up an anvil.
Mj
No I am not a sales rep, just a civil engineer w/expertise in geotechnical design using geosynthetics. What I have thought of looking into is getting some damaged or off-spec materials donated?
"Be responsible for your actions and sensitive to the concerns of other visitors and land managers. ... Your reward is the opportunity to climb in one of the most beautiful areas in this part of the country." John H. Bronaugh
Captain Static,
I would be willing to lend a hand or two, as well as some Resources, trucks, caterpillar, etc... I just need guidance! You get the materials and I'll get whatever else you say we need.
