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Lynne, what was being presented in my class was actual equipment they were using. I agree that theory can take some time to get into implementation and that the cheapest route is usually the path taken. Maybe if we push hard enough, they'll do it with the right equipment.

your memory must be going then, Dingo, because the record distance horizontal drilling has reached was in one instance in the UK and it was 10 km, or 6.2 miles. This is apparently farther than this technology was predicted to be able to reach and not all horizontal drilling applications have achieved this distance. Not that I came across in my research, anyway. Schlumberger themselves predict a practical limit of 10-15 km. Also, horizontal drilling appears to have a very high influx of water and other gases, lowering the efficiency of drilling thus raising the cost and lowering the attractiveness.

The point is not to prove you wrong - please know that. The point is that there are 2 very polarized sides to this story and objectivity is important when you are looking at the issues. I tend to cast a jaundiced eye on the side that has money as it's objective..

Hotels in Arizona also will not wash your sheets or towels unless you specifically request it, and I'm all for that. I think all hotels should implement a similar practice and pass the cost savings onto their customers. I just wish all the resorts, businesses and homes in the desert would stop planting freakin' grass and tropical plants that don't belong there. It's an assault to the senses as well as a huge waste of water.

Mrs - good for you on the hybrid vehicle!! I was pissed about the SUV truck status continuing as well. Now some really should be classified as trucks, those which have truck-level towing and cargo capacity. Most do not. Again, it's all about money taking precidence over everything else. This world depresses the hell out of me sometimes..

Lynne, Thanks for correcting me. You must have a ton of free time to do all this research!

I have more free time that I would prefer (in my job, that's a bad sign..). It did however only take a 5 second Google search to find this info.

Right with my job, I probably shouldn't even take the time to check this site regularly. I'm falling behind more and more every day. I'll try to run that search some time and read up on it. Sorry for the confusion on the distance. Thanks for correcting me.

the prius does rock. if i were a yuppy, not a climber, and living somewhere where i needed a car, i would totally get one.

i love the screen on the dash that shows you how much energy you recovered when you brake. and it is fun to drive.

There is no such things as “Leave No Trace”.

Our mere alien presence is a trace.

It should be rephrased to “Leave as little trace as possible”… or, even better,

Just “Leave”

Too many people, too many interests, too many agendas.

“Save the trees, kill the beavers!”

fuckin beavers
never before have i seen, first hand, as much degradation of an environment as the fuckin canadian beavers have had on the temperate rain forests of southern chile on the island tierra del fuego and more recently navarino. About 50 where introduced i think in the 1940's as an attempt to establish some sort of fur trade, but this was abandoned. With no predator, and in a similar climate with untouched virgin trees these beaver where in heaven and quickly expanded across the southern island of tierra del fuego then over to isla navarino and are now threatening the mainland as they move up the andes mountains. They leave behind in there wake a waste land of dead trees and stagnant pools . We even ran into a beaver damn at a toe of the stoppani glacier. Ironically the only studies, that i know of, that have been done about this issue where commissioned by U.S. forestry company Trillium who just wants the same trees for themselves.

Patagonia is some of the most beautiful land that i have ever seen or hand the pleasure to travel in and it is sad what is happening down there. Unlike its counterpart in the north, the ANWR, patagonia has only small tracts of land set aside for preservation and there is now a big debate between the chilean government, timber companies, and other private landowners over how to use the land. I do beleive that the massive clearcut operation planned by trillium is still stalled though they do own most of tierra del fuego.

The environment sucks. Environmental arguments suck. Screw trees. Hell, screw rocks. Who needs em when we got sweet gyms to climb in.

Fuck the flowers.

The beaver is back in northern Ky. Dogs won't mess with them.Do they have any natural enemies here?It was neat seeing them right in the little town of Cordova,on Crooked Creek,they are chewing up trees indescrimenetly.The landowner is fascinated just watching them.I just wonder if they are going to get out of hand.