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Well, all I know is that I have a big biner and if I don't stick it in both holes it gets loose and flops all over the place, thus making it hard to control. If it's through both holes, then it's more stable and stays where I put it so my hands are free to focus on holding the rope while I am belaying rather than fiddlin with the biner. I guess if you have a small biner, then the one-hole method would work because it doesn't take as much effort to stabilize a small biner. I will try the one-holer, but I am skeptical. Hell, I haven't touched the rock in so long, I pretty much have forgotten how to belay altogether, so I may end up putting it in the wrong hole every time for a month!

Mj

if you have a big biner and it's flopping when you put it specific holes, maybe you need to find holes that don't get around so much?

No, it just takes two holes to hold it straight. One just doesn't give enough support.

Mj

are we still talking about sex?

so I can carry my grigri like a six pack?

does it leave a trail like a snail?

We were talking about sex?

Mj

yup and if you put it in a gri-gri it will squish it and make it useless.
I just knew we would arrive at an answer for this thread.

Artsay wrote:Basically, when you have the GriGri on *correctly* (from what I've read), it looks a lot different than most folks use it. I.e. You know that smoothed metal flap on the device by the picture of the hand?

Ok... to properly lower someone using the Gri-Gri: Make sure they are weighting the rope. Turn the device (Gri-Gri) with the trigger and left hand so that it is in a straight line with your left elbow. Hold the right hand down to your right side with the rope. These two movements cause the rope to run over the METAL FLAPPY THING commonly refered to as THE HEAT SHIELD. This can be done no matter what loop you clip your carabiner through on the front your harness... please read the instructions that come with these fancy Petzl products so you know how to use them. Also, if you forget where your hands are suppose to go, refer to the illustration on the Gr-Gri of the climber, and the break hand.

Just out of curiousity... How many people have actually retired a rope because they used a Gri-Gri on it???

I guess the gig is up for me! My only defense is wishing to finish the thread i started and to get good advice on ropes.

I liked this site when I first saw it and wanted to be a part of it. Most of the people are really nice and its a fun site.

i have a weakness to being told what to say and think and write and ask, and when told to do so, often overreact in a negative way.

This is my case: I overreacted to being told what to ask and overeacted to the picture on the thread because I often check the site during planning periods at the school where I teach. (It was my understanding that pictures like that were only supposed to be n the flame section so people don't get into trouble where they work if somebody accidentally views a bad pic).

I wrote things i really didn't mean and let somebody get the better of me - then- wanted to view and post on my thread...and I really like this site too.

so...I'm busted! I wanted a fake name for pride's sake and was thinking of five10. I though that's no good and was going to pick ten5 but that means"eating doughnuts" so, i picked ten8 because that means "ready to work" so there you have me to rights.

I have no excuse except stubborn pride and lack of restraint (and creativity) and remorse because I like this site so much.

KD