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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:22 am
by Wes
Free? Maybe. But, in the time it takes just to drive there and back, I can have a great gym session. No cold ass rock, wet snowy approches, and freezing your ass off belaying.

I used to be all hard core and climb outside no matter what. But, I grew out of that phase. Now I am a fair* weather climber. And happy to be that way.

Wes

*fair is at least 40's and sunny. If it is rainy or overcast then maybe 50's. Bouldering can be a bit colder.

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 1:35 pm
by SCIN
I'm with ya Wes.

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:53 pm
by rhunt
I'm with you too Wes...it's all about the movement.

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 3:35 pm
by SCIN
I get just as excited about working on an indoor problem as I do when working on an outdoor problem. You have to be more of a man and climb for yourself to get focused on an indoor problem anyway because you know it's going to be gone one day and the spray rights will mean absolutely nothing.

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:47 pm
by funny monkey
They suck - and really need to make changes.
1. I was there last year. Took a 9 month break, and when I got back, their routes were still totally unchanged - aside from perhaps one of them.
2. The people are really not all that friendly - which is remarkable considering that they really aren't cheap.
3. They have a great facility - that place has great potential for being a lot of fun. Someone is getting lazy out there.

It seems that the owners do everything themselves. That is great and fine, but perhaps they need to get together and set some standards to meet the needs of customers like me. For starters: being more welcoming, greeting, smiling, accommodating, friendly, changing routes, etc... Instead, I feel like they want my money, and it really does stop there for me.

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:53 pm
by kclimb
I prefer climbing outdoors, too. But when it's icy, I'll take a gym over not climbing any day.

LR, like everything else, has it's pros and cons, and each person will like it or not based on personal preference. I like the awesome pads in the bouldering area, but I'm not big on bouldering... what frustrates me is that in the 2 years I've gone (granted, not a lot) the routes don't seem to have changed at all. Maybe the fact that the holds turn when I put weight on them freaks me out because I'm not used to it, but it freaks me out nonetheless. The treadwall is awesome though!!

What keeps me from going more often and actually using the membership that I paid a lot of money for is that I don't feel welcome by the owners. Again, maybe it's just me, but they don't even want to look me in the eye when they talk to me, my name isn't on the membership roster to sign in, and I feel like I'm bothering them when I go in. Shouldn't customers feel welcome... especially after they've paid?! :roll:

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 6:05 pm
by aaron
man plastic sucks, gotta pull down on rock to get the buzz. ghetto gyms were fun (climb time lex), until i found out that real rock is way more fun and rewarding. the movement is important but the setting is really important, as in trees, birds, and real rock.

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 6:40 pm
by Alan Evil
I've never climbed indoors. I've also never jogged on a treadmill or ridden a stationary bike. I've never had sex with a fake woman either... at least not that I can remember.

I have played that climbing computer game. It needs more blood and sound fx when you fall, though.

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 6:40 pm
by SCIN
Yea, the setting is important. Nick Reuff is probably the best setter I know of.

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 8:32 pm
by aaron
i maent setting as in what area you are actually in, not the setting of fake holds.