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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 6:27 pm
by Guest
I just got a frantic call from my mother about this "rock climber" who died while "rock climbing" at the Red this past weekend. I assured her that (even though I knew nothing about what happened) it probably was not a climbing accident and had nothing to do with climbing. I was right. There is nothing implying that this guy was climbing, yet she was SURE he was climbing and died from climbing. Jeebus.

Here's the article in the Louisville Courier-Journal.
http://www.courier-journal.com/localnew ... -2022.html

My condolences go out to his family and friends, of course. It's just so perplexing how anyone who falls off a cliff in the RRG is suddenly a rock climber. The only surprising thing about this unfortunate accident is that there may not have been any drugs or alcohol involved.

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 8:44 pm
by Guest
dude,thats why you should sleep in your car!!!

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 11:55 pm
by newshoes
Where is Eagle's Nest? Is it the same thing as Eagle Point Buttress? I've only been out to that area once and I'm not real familiar...

My thoughts go out to the family and friends of John Peter Jackson.

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 2:56 am
by ynot
We call it Eagle point, rappelers call it Eagles nest .

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 10:49 am
by Wicked Tribe
Most people call it Eagle's Nest. I still call it that. It's goofy John Bronaugh who gave it the hoity toity name "Eagle Point Buttress." Sounds like something my art history professor would come up with.

It's like people calling it the Southern Region. IT'S BIG SINKING CREEK! It's part of the Kentucky River watershed, NOT THE RED RIVER.

The true name of a place is what the people that live there call it. Drive down past the Solar Collector, brave the rottweillers and knock on the door of one of the two houses down there and ask those people what they call the area where they live. I guarantee it won't be the "Southern Region." They'd probably say Fixer or Big Sinkin'.

Darn foreigners...comin' down here and tryin' to change everything just for their mamby pamby climbing books.

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 12:39 pm
by t bone
Wicked Tribe, John did not give it that name. Martin Hackworth called it Eagle Point Buttress. That what is called by many other climbers back in the early 80s, which was long before you were climbing!

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 12:54 pm
by Johnny
While you're at it Tribe, don't you think you should research what the native Americans called it. White men like you were just foreigners at one time.

I personally think "Eagle" anything is stupid since I've never seen an Eagle in the Red. Some dumbass named it who can't tell the difference between a hawk and a vulture, I guess.

As far as the Red River moniker, I think we should rename the whole climbing area the "Atlantic" since both Big Sinking, Little Sinking and the Red flow into the Kentucky, which flows into the Ohio, then the Mississippi, then the Gulf of Mexico, which, of course is part of the Atlantic. Now an argument could be made that the Atlantic is really contiguous with all other oceans, so I guess we really need one name for all the oceans combined. That might get confusing, however, since all climbing areas in the world are in this same watershed. Suggestions, Tribe? :)

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 1:46 pm
by Wicked Tribe
Good one John. I think technically the true name of a place is what the current inhabitants call the place, from a strictly geographic standpoint.

And since we need local names to ideantify things and not such general ones as "Atlantic" or "Ocean of the Planet Earth" I think Big Sinking Creek would be just fine.

My appy olly oggies for attributing the hoity toitiness of the name to you. It sounds more like a Hackworth moniker to me anyway.

However Eagle's Nest is a pretty common name for the place, despite the lack of indigenous eagles unless you consider the redneck rappellers wearing surplus fatigues with Airborne patches on the sleeves. Then Eagle's Nest is a fairly apt name for the locale.

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 2:44 pm
by Guest
My ass hurt's.You should call it by it's native American name."sfsd ertdfbv;pe xcf!!!"

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 7:09 pm
by merrick
that is pretty funny tribe. lol