ynot wrote:eh when it all goes to hell ,I'll croak and they will put me in the corner under the redbud tree, everyone can say goobye one last time and watch the horse standing out on the point like he always does. I quit worrying about stuff years ago.
Not till you take my ashes up Foxfire, Mister!
What I love about running is you can meditate while running. It's a peaceful place.
Sister Mary Elizabeth Lloyd, Runs marathons to raise money and awareness about children orphaned by AIDS
rhunt wrote:Paid off all my debt and never plan to own a house. I can stand to take a 5k pay cut when I eventually lose this current job. So no worries.
Exactly. While I might ~someday~ plan to own a house, I too paid off my debt and am on month to month rent. It's a good feeling to have. I've saved up enough to fart around for at least a few months before I need to either dip into the 401k or find another real job. In my line of work, I should be able to (or at least I'm hoping to) find some halfway lucrative contract/temp projects to keep me floating along.
"But the motto was, never think you're that cool - you're still just climbing rocks...in the woods...with bugs...and everyone thinks you're crazy."
Clevis Hitch wrote:I really see things going bad. Way bad. beyond anything that we can imagine. It's O.K. caribe if you want to scoff and say that the way things are will continue in perpetuity.
You would not believe how much of rampant fear and stocking up was going down in the decades 60-80. Having a fallout shelter was all the rage. It was way worse then--there would have been many forums devoted to discussion like the one Clevis started. Two superpowers were armed to the teeth and bristling at each other. I was skeptical then too, I thought the Russians were just people-like us.
10. Talkin' World War III Blues
by Bob Dylan
1963, 1966 Warner Bros.
Some time ago a crazy dream came to me,
I dreamt I was walkin' into World War Three,
I went to the doctor the very next day
To see what kinda words he could say.
He said it was a bad dream.
I wouldn't worry 'bout it none, though,
They were my own dreams and they're only in my head.
I said, "Hold it, Doc, a World War passed through my brain."
He said, "Nurse, get your pad, this boy's insane,"
He grabbed my arm, I said "Ouch!"
As I landed on the psychiatric couch,
He said, "Tell me about it."
Well, the whole thing started at 3 o'clock fast,
It was all over by quarter past.
I was down in the sewer with some little lover
When I peeked out from a manhole cover
Wondering who turned the lights on.
Well, I got up and walked around
And up and down the lonesome town.
I stood a-wondering which way to go,
I lit a cigarette on a parking meter
And walked on down the road.
It was a normal day.
Well, I rung the fallout shelter bell
And I leaned my head and I gave a yell,
"Give me a string bean, I'm a hungry man."
A shotgun fired and away I ran.
I don't blame them too much though,
I know I look funny.
Down at the corner by a hot-dog stand
I seen a man, I said, "Howdy friend,
I guess there's just us two."
He screamed a bit and away he flew.
Thought I was a Communist.
Well, I spied a girl and before she could leave,
"Let's go and play Adam and Eve."
I took her by the hand and my heart it was thumpin'
When she said, "Hey man, you crazy or sumpin',
You see what happened last time they started."
Well, I seen a Cadillac window uptown
And there was nobody aroun',
I got into the driver's seat
And I drove down 42nd Street
In my Cadillac.
Good car to drive after a war.
Well, I remember seein' some ad,
So I turned on my Conelrad.
But I didn't pay my Con Ed bill,
So the radio didn't work so well.
Turned on my record player
It was Rock-A-Day, Johnny singin',
"Tell Your Ma, Tell Your Pa,
Our Loves Are Gonna Grow Ooh-wah, Ooh-wah."
I was feelin' kinda lonesome and blue,
I needed somebody to talk to.
So I called up the operator of time
Just to hear a voice of some kind.
"When you hear the beep
It will be three o'clock,"
She said that for over an hour
And I hung it up.
Well, the doctor interrupted me just about then,
Sayin, "Hey I've been havin' the same old dreams,
But mine was a little different you see.
I dreamt that the only person left after the war was me.
I didn't see you around."
Well, now time passed and now it seems
Everybody's having them dreams.
Everybody sees themselves walkin' around with no one else.
Half of the people can be part right all of the time,
Some of the people can be all right part of the time.
But all of the people cant be right all of the time.
I think Abraham Lincoln said that.
"I'll let you be in my dreams if I can be in yours,"
I said that.
I think people underestimate how bad it could get during a natural disaster like an earthquake. If the New Madrid fault slips like it did in 1811-12 with 4 magnitude 8 quakes, most buildings will crumble and infrastructure will go down for weeks or months. That means no power and no water. Having a few weeks of food and the ability to collect and purify water is never a bad idea.
The theory of evolution is just as stupid as the theories of gravity and electromagnetism.
i made sure the the carreer I chose was recession proof. My wife's is too - crime and ingnorance puts the bread on our table and we will always have food
I'm confused, what's so good about NOT owning a house? I understand if a few well-placed natural or man-made disasters come up I won't be sitting around in my house magically producing food, but other than that isn't it good to not have monthly rent for your whole life?
Also, if you have a farm or large garden with food that people know about someone with guns will rob you anyway if people start getting hungry. Better to be able to be mobile like Clevis if you ask me.
We're all screwed if things go real bad, just too many people bunched up together on this Earth.
efil lanrete... i enjoy the sound, but in truth i find this seductively backward idea to be quite frightening
brent, the rargument against owning is multi faceted....
first, homes cost way more than the mortgage...repairs and interest alone add up quick. the thinking goes that you would be better of renting and putting the extra cash in a retirment account, instead of paying mortgage interest.
you take 20 years to pay for your $150,000 home..with interest you have easily paid $250,000 for it..now, has it risen in value to $250,000 in that time?aybe..but if it has, you have now only broke even on that investment....if you would have paid out $150,000 in rent over that time, and taken the $100,000 and put it to work for you, you'd be way ahead of the game.
that is the theory.
the reailty is rarely are folks disciplined enough to do that. extra money in their pocket means a nicer car or bigger TV.
home ownership is a terrible investment, but it provides a modicum of "security"
