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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:14 pm
by krampus
well if you ever decide to project something you had better clean it every time you come down so that other people can get on it, without having been disrespected by your draws that is...seriously though, have you ever been to a crag like roadside and happen to know or at least have seen most of the other groups before and you all share draws and you don't have to keep hanging them, its kinda nice
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:49 pm
by camhead
Ascentionist wrote:krampus wrote:And don't tell me that you wont use project draws when available, most of which are far worse off than any draws left on a 5.10 for a day
Nope. I don't get on stuff with fixed draws. I mostly climb trad and moderate sport. I won't use unknown gear. It's just not smart.
And yes, I always backup rappels or replace the manky fixed stuff at the top of trad routes.
Look out dude, there's a microfracture holding a dimpled alien RIGHT BEHIND YOU!
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:13 am
by Der Revir
Dude I know it is private land the gas copmany owns it do i have to name it to prove my point you penis wrinkles lol any way whos land what when where i dont give a fu*k take the drawa down this is pointless any way and i am the kid from kentucky I dont need a history lesson or grammer i have already been through those and further more susan thats a refrence from a sublime song just to clear things up and further more the great thing about america is independent thinking and the freedom of speach anymore takers step right up you can all go eat dog poop for all i care haters.
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:50 am
by captain static
Further proof of a TROLL!
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:55 am
by Jeff
Pretty weak one at that.
Sorry pigsteak.
Just like you never see Batman and Bruce Wayne at the same place/ same time.
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:06 am
by Rotarypwr345704
Did anyone else have a REALLY DIFFICULT time reading what Der Revir wrote? I mean, damn, you don't have to be awesome at grammar or spelling. But a complete well thought sentence would help us understand your point. OR. Just add some punctuation so we know where one idea stops and the other one starts. Thanks.
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:53 am
by MacGyver
ahab wrote:so yeah, about the draws...
i've done the same thing that macgyver did on the same damn climb. it was not a problem, nor should it have been. the problem is that they were taken.
i suspect that since all the draws were taken, and since it was crazyfingers that someone just didn't know any better.
someone: if you are reading this thread and you took the draws down those were not booty. you mistakenly took someones gear. it's not that big a deal, just make it right and return them to their owner and all will be well. you won't be tarred and feathered. hell, remain anonymous if you like so long as you give them back.
a note with the draws at miguel's, a pm to mac, a ups package - whatever.
do the right thing.
Thanks ahab.
So yeah leaving the draws up was lazy and unnecessary, but it was late afternoon on a tuesday, there was no one else at the 10 wall, and we weren't gone long.
Taking something that isn't yours is a shitty thing to do, no matter how you feel about the ethics of hanging draws.
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:55 am
by Wes
It was probably just hikers. Climbers are way to cool to do something like that.