WOOHOO

Post by **rhunt** » Tue Jul 01, 2003 6:24 pm

For a web page that is all about the area that has the best SPORT climbing in the country, there sure is a lot of talk about trad climbing. Trad sucks at the Red go to the New!!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Jul 01, 2003 6:29 pm

rhunt wrote:Trad sucks at the Red go to the New!!

That's got to be the most assinine statement I've ever read on this website, even taking into account every stupid thing Wallnut ever said.

Post by **rhunt** » Tue Jul 01, 2003 7:06 pm

Lynne,

Do tell...I'd love to hear how the Red has better trad climbing than the New!

Don't get me wrong, I love the Red but really it is mostly a sport climbing area.

Oh and I am sure I have read more assinine statements on this web page...maybe even from you, but on one's keeping score.

Post by **rhino** » Tue Jul 01, 2003 7:52 pm

Mostly a sport climbing area?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Jul 01, 2003 7:53 pm

Rhunt, in Bronaugh's (now outdated) guide there are 631 trad routes listed and only 355 sport routes, as well as 53 mixed (read: non-sport) routes. I don't know what the current numbers are, but there is far more trad here than sport. If you think trad at the New is better, suffice it to say that you have not tasted the Red River Gorge properly. We have beautiful cracks here. Having done most of my early climbing at the New, I say it blows compared to the Red, even though it's still damn nice. Of course the sport climbing here rules as well, but to say that the Red is "mostly a sport climbing area" is just plain incorrect.

Post by **Uncle Big Green** » Tue Jul 01, 2003 8:04 pm

Children, both places are good and both have their merits. I think that the trad at the New is a little better and the sport at the Red is a little better. Just my opinion. Both places have excellent sport and trad - it just depends on your personal preferances. Kinda what Lynne said, except that I don't think either place blows in comparison to the other.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Jul 01, 2003 8:08 pm

pffff, what do you know, highlander? NOTHING in the east is as asthetic as RRG climbing. You speak blasphemy!

Post by **Don McGlone** » Tue Jul 01, 2003 8:11 pm

I agree UBG. Both places rock for both sport and trad. And I am fortunate enough to live between the two. 8) Hell, the worst climb I ever did in my life didn't suck - you could be workin' for the man instead, ya' know.

Post by **rhunt** » Tue Jul 01, 2003 8:13 pm

Lynne,

Numbers don't give a clear picture..most of those routes are 5.2 dirty piles!!

why are there no new trad areas going up?

Post by **Don McGlone** » Tue Jul 01, 2003 8:15 pm

rhunt,
There are in the "Northern Region".