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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:42 pm
by cliftongifford
The real issues still exist. Obama is no different than the other republicrats in DC. Power hungry socialist pigs hell bent on taking from me to give to you. Our founding fathers would be ashamed of how this country has evolved into the same type of government we fought against during the revolutionary war. We started as a free republic, transcended to democracy, and will eventually end as an oligarchy. There are still two unconstitutional wars going on, that Obama as Commander in Chief, has not ended. The Federal Reserve Bank still has the power given to it by the democrats in 1913 and has recently been given MORE power by Obama. We still have troops and bases in over 100 countries as we speak, ignoring the advice of our founding fathers to have a non-interventionist foreign policy. Our republic has been replaced by a pure socialist democracy and we’re being forced to accept it as change. Obama is no more of an advocate of the constitution than congress, it limits their power and power is what they cherish. The rich will keep getting richer, and our individual freedoms and responsibilities will continually vanish. We’ve taken individuality and liberty too lightly, and ignored the cornerstone on which this country was built on… Freedom.

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:48 pm
by pigsteak
raspy..yes, the "certificate of live birth" is authentic....it still is not a birth certificate.

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:37 pm
by cliftongifford
pigsteak wrote:raspy..yes, the "certificate of live birth" is authentic....it still is not a birth certificate.
then what is a birth certificate?

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:56 pm
by ahab
pigsteak wrote:you see, when you are a lib, you get to ignore reality, casue yer guy won....yee haw.
piggy you seem confused. haven't you stated in other topics that you voted for obama? so you consider yourself a "lib"? i'm not sure what liberal really even means anymore, but i suppose i would be considered one. guess what...i didn't vote for obama. put that in your pipe & smoke it...hippy.

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:11 pm
by Crankmas
soo... why did the military officer win the case when the challenge was to obama's legitimacy to be president?? can someone get beyond how Bush pronounced words and answer that question?? obama pledges and seeks transparency and offers none. can you say paradox? I knew you could

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:38 pm
by _Rasputin
pigsteak wrote:
raspy..yes, the "certificate of live birth" is authentic....it still is not a birth certificate.


then what is a birth certificate?
As per factcheck.org

The document is a "certification of birth," also known as a short-form birth certificate. The long form is drawn up by the hospital and includes additional information such as birth weight and parents' hometowns. The short form is printed by the state and draws from a database with fewer details. The Hawaii Department of Health's birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate, but their short form has enough information to be acceptable to the State Department. We tried to ask the Hawaii DOH why they only offer the short form, among other questions, but they have not given a response.

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:45 pm
by rustyvasectomy
pigsteak wrote:
sendit wrote:Would this ever have been brought up if he wasn't black?
um, with a white mother, isn't he just as white as he is black? and if so, can't we just insert "white" for "black" in your silly question.....
40 years ago he would have been discriminated against because of his skin color and you and I would not have been discriminated against. That makes him black and us white.

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:03 pm
by pigsteak
rustyvasectomy wrote:
pigsteak wrote:
sendit wrote:Would this ever have been brought up if he wasn't black?
um, with a white mother, isn't he just as white as he is black? and if so, can't we just insert "white" for "black" in your silly question.....
40 years ago he would have been discriminated against because of his skin color and you and I would not have been discriminated against. That makes him black and us white.

hmmm, funny thing is, this ain't 1969....grow up people.

btw, yes, ahab, I did vote for Obama....but surely you know I just love to argue the side no one wants to touch. and current libs are so in bed with Obama that is a very dangerous place to be.

he is currently screwing american capitalism, and not a single lib seems to care. wait 5 years until inflation is thur the roof, your home is worth 50% of its current value, and your private sector job is no longer....

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:24 pm
by Saxman
Yeah, because no company would ever do anything to harm anyone for profit.

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:48 pm
by sendit
pigsteak wrote:
hmmm, funny thing is, this ain't 1969....grow up people.

btw, yes, ahab, I did vote for Obama....but surely you know I just love to argue the side no one wants to touch. and current libs are so in bed with Obama that is a very dangerous place to be.

he is currently screwing american capitalism, and not a single lib seems to care. wait 5 years until inflation is thur the roof, your home is worth 50% of its current value, and your private sector job is no longer....
What exactly is the "american capitalism" that Obama is screwing?