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tbwilsonky wrote:cleft. awkward terminology. this is really gonna bother me later.

i'm certain this is what al was referring to. (NWS)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleft_of_venus

ahab wrote:

tbwilsonky wrote:cleft. awkward terminology. this is really gonna bother me later.

i'm certain this is what al was referring to. (NWS)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleft_of_venus

exactly.

I have seen numerous posts recently referring to the cleft as "a vagina" It is NOT a vagina, but rather "the cleft".

The vagina and the cleft are two different places.

the cleft of a naked woman = the cleft (for short)

Rotarypwr345704 wrote:The New crushes the gorge for trad.
Who gives a shit? Hey. You see that crack? I'm going to climb it. But I'm going to do it with ground-up ethics as I struggle up this 5.9. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad there is trad. Trad works out for me like Roadside and Muir work out for the rest of the "Red" or "Gorge" : It keeps all the gumbies out of where I'm climbing.

I like to go to obscure trad crags on busy weekends to get away from self righteous entitled assholes like you that think they own the fucking place and stand around and talk about how much trad sucks.

pawilkes wrote:

Rotarypwr345704 wrote:The New crushes the gorge for trad.
Who gives a shit? Hey. You see that crack? I'm going to climb it. But I'm going to do it with ground-up ethics as I struggle up this 5.9. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad there is trad. Trad works out for me like Roadside and Muir work out for the rest of the "Red" or "Gorge" : It keeps all the gumbies out of where I'm climbing.

I like to go to obscure trad crags on busy weekends to get away from self righteous entitled assholes like you that think they own the fucking place and stand around and talk about how much trad sucks.

It seems like a lot more assholes can climb 5.12 now than there used to be, or maybe i just never noticed before.....

Rotarypwr345704, the New crushes the gorge for trad (and singletrack and world class whitewater and lack of self important douche bag assholes). Just like the Lode (which is apparently the only place some people climb) crushes Endless wall.

Just trying to help maybe enlarge some SMALL perspectives, but then again I don't really give a shit.

Climbing was so 5 years ago.