Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 4:48 pm
Wait!. You can climb without an ego?
No, who told you that lie?MacGyver wrote:Wait!. You can climb without an ego?
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 5:06 pm
Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 5:08 pm
Yea, the aggressive types probably do have more ego problems or at least different kinds of ego problems which may be unattractive. But it helps them get up the rock.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 5:17 pm
rhunt wrote:
judges...?
Wes wrote:
I think bcombs pretty much nailed it down, thinking you have all the answers and refusing advice about safety is asking for trouble. I have offered advice on occasion when I saw something sketcky going on, mostly it was well receivced but I have had a couple people roll their eyes and ignore me at which point I left so as not to have to carry their carcess out.
just one sock I can see but a pair of socks are pretty nice at Muscle Beach and when climbing in winter at the Red~you wear sock with your climbing shoes
judges...?
Wes wrote:
sheesh Jay everyone knows KYwilderness.com and RRC.com were/are the only climbing bbs' worth posting on in the whole country. How could you not know this?If you didn't have a user ID on kywilderness.com (when it was the climbers bbs), then you are a gumby. Period. You do, however, get partial credit if you had a climbky.com account.
I think bcombs pretty much nailed it down, thinking you have all the answers and refusing advice about safety is asking for trouble. I have offered advice on occasion when I saw something sketcky going on, mostly it was well receivced but I have had a couple people roll their eyes and ignore me at which point I left so as not to have to carry their carcess out.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 5:18 pm
It has nothing to do with how well or how safely you climb.
Like Buster says.....if you can't spot the gumby in 5 minutes then it's you.
Like Buster says.....if you can't spot the gumby in 5 minutes then it's you.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 5:46 pm
from where else, but http://www.rockclimbing.com/cgi-bin/for ... st=1900322
bobruef () Post #79 of 80 (90 views) Shortcut May 28, 2008, 10:45 AM
Re: [dynosore] Gunks High E screaming girl/Cut Rope - NEW [In reply to] Quote | Reply
Eman from Gunks.com forum wrote:Ok kids. It was me, Eric Weigeshoff, telling the story at the party. I was climbing Modern Times with Rod Schnier. We saw this start to happen while we climbed to the top from the GT. This is the story from the horse's mouth: NOTE! If I had have known what was truly going on, I would have intervened.
I was leading Modern Times to the GT. I was watching a fairly inexperienced team climbing High E. (Call them Team B) Team B's leader had set up a hanging belay about 8 feet under the GT ledge, I don't know why, and was bringing up his two followers from there. At that time, there were two people from another team (Team A) who were on the High E ledge. Leader was already at the top.
I then reached GT, and brought Rod up, who started to lead to top.
I noticed the 2nd of Team A starting to climb way to the right of the actual start to the last pitch of High E, and was struggling. I, of course, heckled. As he just about was to the crux, the third started climbing. I realized that she was tied into the same rope. Naturally, I heckled and took a picture of the imbeciles.
Rod was about on the top by now, when girl from Team A started screaming bloody murder. Can't do it, no holds, etc. Rod tops out, where he apparently encounters leader of Team A, not on top ledge where you would normally belay, but on the grassy top. He is lounging. Rod informs him that his girlfriend is going to be pissed. He says it's his sister. He sets up a z pulley, locks them off, and raps to the large ledge on top to observe.
At this time, I reach top, and heckle the guy, call him an idiot (I'm having a bad day) and Rod and I proceed to rap. Rod raps to the second station, I follow. As we are sitting at the second station, pulling our rope, I see Dan Ling reaching the ledge from Doubleissima. I also notice Team A girl hanging at lip, screaming.
I notice she has a sling on her, and Team B has apparently climbed up to her and built an anchor under the roof. At this point, Rod asks if we should go up to help, and I see her swinging back and forth, being pulled by Team B, who is anchored under the lip. We then hear:
1... 2... 3! The rope snaps, and she factor 2's onto the anchor that Team B built. I turn to Rod and say (Freaked out) "Did she just cut the rope?" Rod says, "She cut the rope!" This is repeated around 20 times by us both.
We rap to the ground, where team A's second proceeds to drop a #1 Camalot and a sling on me, just missing me, with the call, "Heads up, yo".
We leave, not wanting to clean up any mess that may ensue.
This is the actual story. No embellishment.
Eric Weigeshoff
Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 6:34 pm
as you said, "don't take seriously" but let's look at a few things.rhunt wrote:you know you're a gumby when:
~you wear sock with your climbing shoes
~you clip your calk bag to your harness
~you wear a helmet sport climbing
~you mostly sport climb and don't know how to use a gri gri
~you rap more often than lower off sport climbs
)trad climbers/offwidths/all day routes/winter. soocks do not equal gumby. but i see your side.
)don't have a belt sometimes. make do with what you have. not gumby
)wearing a helmet is a personal choice. those people have something to protect and feel as such. more power to them.
really??? so saving hardware that someone else has to put up is gumby?? that to me is way more in tune with respect than lowering off everything. maybe you are too gumby to know how to rap safely.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 6:44 pm
"He'll be so strong and flexible, he'll be like Gumby and Hercules combined."
"You mean Gumbercules? I love that guy!"
I love you Futurama.
"You mean Gumbercules? I love that guy!"
I love you Futurama.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 8:32 pm
At first, anticlimber, I read a lot of your posts and thought you were immature by your responses and postings. However, today, I have learned that you are not as immature, or gumbyish as I once thought. I have found respect. I agree in completion with what you have said here in your rebuttal to rhunt. Espesually with the helmet. You can crack your head open like an egg just as fast on sport, as you can with trad, or from being the belayer who gets a rock dropped on your head. I see the scars from such an accident daily.anticlmber wrote:as you said, "don't take seriously" but let's look at a few things.rhunt wrote:you know you're a gumby when:
~you wear sock with your climbing shoes
~you clip your calk bag to your harness
~you wear a helmet sport climbing
~you mostly sport climb and don't know how to use a gri gri
~you rap more often than lower off sport climbs
)trad climbers/offwidths/all day routes/winter. soocks do not equal gumby. but i see your side.
)don't have a belt sometimes. make do with what you have. not gumby
)wearing a helmet is a personal choice. those people have something to protect and feel as such. more power to them.
really??? so saving hardware that someone else has to put up is gumby?? that to me is way more in tune with respect than lowering off everything. maybe you are too gumby to know how to rap safely.
Being a gumby is not putting safety first, people next and nature after that. Always try to live to climb another day. Even if that means letting your ego die so you can listen and learn.
There is the easy way of listening and then there is the hard way of flipping upside down because the rope is behind your knee and you didn't wear the helmet.
Great post and topic.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 9:11 pm
my friend, you have many things to unlearn about me.
glad you enjoy.
glad you enjoy.