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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:29 pm
by pigsteak
ahab and lander...see the absurdity of it all....we make up acceptable "rules" all the time for this sport. and no one questions it.

next thing ya know there will be permanent bolts on those sandstone faces.

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:36 pm
by jenbongo
I like rjackson's "one for the send, two for safety". I voted for one, but I always clip two - more because I'm OCD, but also for safety. As long as we're sport climbing, you gotta clip one, but if you're soloing, I say go for the whipper . . .

Speaking of "partners" aren't you getting married, Cleveland? to a girl? did that happen yet?

Re: When Have You Oficcially Redpointed a Route

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:36 pm
by dbrayack
Cleveland wrote:My partner's and I were talking last weekend about when you have successfully redpointed a route when one of them pointed out that everyone has there own opinion. I am anxious to hear some people's views on this issue.
What is all comes down to is whatever you want - you're the one that has to live with yourself..if you think tapping and going is fine...well, then check it in your book, log it on your 8a and tell everyone you did it... =)

For me, on a "crucial" RP like something that's at my limit, I'll clip one, then unclip and jump because I feel like having the energy to clip is part of sending the route....but whatever you do personally, that's your perogative.

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:43 pm
by ahab
pigsteak wrote:ahab and lander...see the absurdity of it all....we make up acceptable "rules" all the time for this sport. and no one questions it.

next thing ya know there will be permanent bolts on those sandstone faces.
no way man, on all my redpoints i place bolts/draws on the way up. i would kick some serious arse were i to see someone defacing the rock like that.

wait, now i'm confused...

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:08 pm
by Cleveland
jenbongo wrote:
Speaking of "partners" aren't you getting married, Cleveland? to a girl? did that happen yet?
Yeah I'm gettin hitched in October and yeah it's a girl. You still planning on coming down in a couple weeks?

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:10 pm
by Lateralus
I prefer Mauvepoint = do your best climb safe have fun

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:10 pm
by rjackson
pigsteak wrote:..... if ya ain't got the juice to clip, you didn't send.
That's my opinion.

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:17 pm
by Meadows
Lander wrote:Pigsteak, that day has already come. I've personally witnessed each of the scenarios you listed.
And I've personally witnessed Pigsteak doing each of those scenarios.

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:55 pm
by Crankmas
[quote="pigsteak" this sport has already been watered down beyond comprehension.

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:58 pm
by Crankmas
allah, this is not a sport carryon- Pigsteak