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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:38 am
by dmw
ok so this is the part where it stopped making sense to me.... anyone care to illuminate?
One of the downsides of producing methanol from coal or natural gas is that the processes produce CO2. Generally companies don't yet have a concrete plan for dealing with CO2 emissions. Says Dow's Chen, "CO2 is one of the most important topics we'll look at in the feasibility study" of the coal-to-methanol-to-olefins facility. He adds, "we'll do everything we can to find a solution, but what the outcome will be is difficult to say."
and isn't olefin something that is in those double-layered ingenius socks? I am lost people....
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:12 pm
by caribe
This may be interesting and it certainly is on topic. All ACS meetings are open to the public.
American Chemical Society Lexington Bluegrass section:
The next ACS meeting is Monday, February 25, 6:00 p.m. at Transylvania University
Monday, February 25 AMERICAN CHEMICAL SOCIETY MEETING
6:00 p.m. Dr. Henry R. Bungay
5:45 Refreshments Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Room BSC 120 "Bioenergy Without Hype"
Strickland Auditorium
Brown Science Center
Transylvania University
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:09 pm
by Alan Evil
Does anyone remember Kucinich's plan for converting to a hydrogen economy? Anyone? Tidal and wind powered, eliminating fossil fuels and the far more filthy* nuclear industry? The fact that his wife is hot, his ears are funny, and he says he's seen something in the sky he couldn't identify has caused the only truly intelligent liberal in the Presidential race to be ignored. Maybe if we could use the half a trillion dollars we've spent on the stupid Iraq war to change over we could do it. The same reason we may never have a universal health care system is why we'll never see anything sensible done to end our dependence on fossil and nuclear fuels: The ultra-wealthy would not be the main beneficiaries of the change.
*the waste from nuclear power is deadly for over 100,000 years and is deadly in such minute amounts it's hard to conceive. And there's that use of the waste product plutonium to make bombs that is bothersome.
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:52 pm
by caribe
March 5, 2008, 9:12 pm
Oil’s End
From the steps of the Supreme Court to the White House press room, from global trading exchanges to the snowy reaches of Alaska — over the last week, you could hear the creak of history as it began to pivot in a half-dozen locales.
The Age of Oil is at an end. Maybe not this year. Maybe not for five years. But signs of the coming collapse are evident.
Start at the White House. There, a week ago, President Bush touted tax breaks for oil companies that have just posted the largest profits in the history of American business. Yet he was dumbstruck when asked about the prospect of $4-a-gallon gasoline, a price that will force many families to choose between food and basic travel.
“Wait — what did you just say?â€
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:37 pm
by L Day
Jesus Christ, what a stupid article. Let's take this quote -
"The Age of Oil is at an end. Maybe not this year. Maybe not for five years. But signs of the coming collapse are evident."
Egan then goes on to tell us how stupid Bush is, then, how evil Big Oil is, but in the whole god damned article doesn't offer one shred of evidence that the age of oil is coming to an end. Like all of us he's pissed, but that's all this article is, a very public temper tantrum.
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:59 pm
by Jeff
$200 Dollar a Barrel Oil Is Bilderberg Plan To Destroy Middle Class
Elitists use peak oil scam, market turmoil, threat of Iran war to hike profits, torpedo middle class
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Monday, September 17, 2007
The global elite are conspiring to send oil prices crashing through the $200 dollar a barrel mark as part of an organized agenda to hike profits, bring about a global economic crash and torpedo the middle class, and they're not afraid to attack Iran as a means of achieving their goal. Crude oil prices returned to near record high prices today after having surged past the $80 a barrel benchmark on Thursday. Now there is serious debate about oil crashing not just the $100 dollar, but the $200 dollar a barrel level in the next two years.
The 24/7 Wall Street blog, which is affiliated with both Dow Jones' MarketWatch and The Wall Street Journal, carried an article over the weekend that entertained the possibility of oil tipping the $200 mark, citing experts in the industry who expect the $95 a barrel level to be surpassed by the end of the year if the recent stock market turmoil continues.The ultra-secretive Bilderberg Group, a consortium of power brokers from banking, business, politics, academia and oil, met in Munich Germany in May 2005 when crude oil prices were around the $40 a barrel mark. During the conference, Henry Kissinger told his fellow attendees that the elite had resolved to ensure that oil prices would double over the course of the next 12-24 months, which is exactly what has happened. During their 2006 meeting in Ottawa Canada, Bilderberg agreed to push for $105 a barrel before the end of 2008. This information was gleaned from sources inside Bilderberg who have proven reliable in the past. Though Bilderberg claim they are merely a talking shop and formulate no policy, they were also responsible for the decision to delay the invasion of Iraq until March 2003 after it was initially intended to take place in late 2002. Bilderberg have sworn to bring about what Jose Barroso, President of the European Commission and a Bilderberg member, refers to as the "post-industrial revolution," which in layman's terms translates as a global economic crash, another great depression and the total evisceration of the middle class.
This will be accomplished by hyping the doomsday threat of global warming in alliance with the promotion of peak oil. Peak oil is a scam manufactured by the oil companies to create artificial scarcity and drive up profits for transnational oil cartels. It was first originated in 1956 by Shell Oil's M. King Hubbert, who said that only one and a quarter trillion barrels of crude were left, a figure that was surpassed at the end of 2006. According to Hubbert's original calculations, the planet should already have produced its last drop over nine months ago. By pushing peak oil theories and tying them in with the man-made global warming fraud, Bilderberg seeks to jack up oil prices to the point where the living standards of the middle class become unsustainable and the west is lowered into second world status while fat cat elitists reap the financial and political bounty. A military attack on Iran is also essential for the globalists to kick-start an economic collapse coupled with a massive hike in oil prices. French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner told a French TV station yesterday that the world should prepare for war with Iran as rhetoric around the possibility of conflict grows bellicose. Experts have predicted that should an attack occur, Iran would immediately cease oil exports, pushing the price per barrel well beyond $100 almost immediately, inflating gasoline prices and kicking off a worldwide energy crisis and a recession.
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:07 pm
by L Day
In this case paranoid stupidity. The supposed conspiracy of "the elite" to "bring about a global economic crash and torpedo the middle class" would wreak havoc on the net wealth of the global elite. Believe me, the rich want to stay rich. The collapse of the western middle class would be unbearably costly to wealthy industrialists, bankers, real estate developers, you name it.
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:39 pm
by L K Day
Paul Joseph "Numbnuts" Watson is a fucking idiot. If the "elite" succeded in sinking the middle class, to whom would the elite sell the shit that their companies make? Do you think Detroit wants the middle class bankrupt? How about Toyota? Boeing? Home Depot? Microsoft? Maybe the hotel industry wants us all penniless? Wall Street? God, what lunacy.
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:15 am
by the lurkist
It must be true. I read it on the bbs.
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:13 pm
by Crankmas
Eliminate Iran- it is the crux of the Arab-Israeli conflict, by hijacking the Palestinian cause the persians and their islame revolution have generated greater discord in the M.E. than any other factor, their presence is felt throughout Iraq and Lebanon as well-nip it in the bud, bud. Inform the world to do what it must as well as anyone in Iran that doesn't wish to go down the tubes with these religious deranged lunatics- then eliminate with extreme prejudice.