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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:12 am
by Danny
crap, I was gonna make a joke about McAbel or McLovin but of course dumb ass already put it on google

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:01 am
by pigsteak
yo tom....i believe any life spent 100% in the public sector, where taxpayers pay your salary and you are not forced to swim with the sharks, is what we were railing against. damn, you are perhaps more partisan than evil boy.

dubya owned the Rangers, worked for daddy's rich oil friends, etc....but have you ever looked at the silver spoon Kerry had? Are you also calling him a chump? you disdain is thinly veiled, but hardly objective.

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:25 am
by Andrew
Thanks piggie, I guess my job isn't real. Maybe those little punks can teach themselves.

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:28 am
by pigsteak
lol...are you running for president andrew?

remember, I didn't say that..it was alan evil who is pissed off at you "public servants".....well, actually, alan evil is only pissed off at those who don't agree with him politically, so if you kiss his ass, then you may be ok....

btw, get a private sector job to see how cush you have it.....summers off, fall break, winter break, spring break
.....geesh, you guys ever work....

(time to whine and proclaim how dedicated and under paid you are...) bring it on, lover boy.

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:34 am
by tomdarch
Oh, and the animal control people I was talking with last week weren't really working in a poorly heated/un air-conditioned building and weren't really at risk of being bitten/clawed by sick cats and dogs. Because they work for the county, they can't really get rabies. I guess if they had to deal with actual sharks, that would be different.

Right. And when John Kerry volunteered to join the reserves while still in school, then, when he graduated, volunteered to be sent to Viet Nam, then volunteered to be sent into combat, because he wasn't 'swimming with the sharks' in the cutthroat, free market world of commercial mercenaries, he was suckling at the taxpayers' teat.

Yes, Kerry was sent to ritzy schools and spent summers at an estate in France, but that wasn't his parent's money - it was the kindness of his actually rich relatives, and I'm sure he knew it. He earned good grades and applied himself in school, then volunteered for the military, then worked for veterans, then worked as a prosecutor. In other words, served people, instead of getting hooked up at some bank or law firm where he could have made way more money.

El Shrubbo, on the other hand, after putzing through school and blowing off his jet fighter pilot classes defending Texas from the Mexican Air Force, then went to work flushing money (not his own) down the toilet because he couldn't find oil in Texas!?!?! Sure, he used his insider knowledge of Harken Energy to cash out his investment just before the company failed, and then went on to what sounds like the peak of his life/career in a minimal-responsibility position as a VP with the Rangers.

My point is that while you try to portray Clinton, Kerry and Bush as simply "all the same" and that they were equally privileged, equally rich, and that they equally served their own interests at the expense of others, that's simply not true. Clinton was not rich or connected and worked his way up from the bottom. Kerry was part of a rich family, but worked hard in school, volunteered for active service in the military, and spent the early part of his career actually serving people. These stories are fundamentally different from El Shrubbo, who was lazy, stupid and leaned heavily on his family and connections in a failed attempt to make himself richer while shirking responsibility. Simply not the same.

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:44 am
by Shamis
I like mccain. He's moderate, and not a bible monkey.

I kind of like hillary and obama too, but I'm afraid of their national healthcare...I don't see it working.

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:54 am
by anticlmber
McCain sold out his own folks in vietnam

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:50 pm
by pigsteak
so, what is your take on mccain, tomdarch? (in under 500 words please)

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:02 pm
by tomdarch
In order to limit it to 500 words, you'll need to specify a time frame. McCain from 1/1/07 to the present seems a lot different from McCain 1/1/00 through 12/31/06.

Old McCain - technically a Republican, but not stupid or an asshole. Wrong on a lot of points, but worthy of respect.

New McCain - willing to say/do stupid shit to get elected, but at least he's one of the only guys at the Republican debates to point out that torture is bad. Over all, much less worth of respect - like Powell, he's trashed his hard earned reputation for a very brief gain.

(by the way - my take on Romney dropping out is that he knows that any Republican is going to have a very, very hard time winning in 08, and that the best way to get the Republican nomination is to come in 2nd during the previous cycle. I think that Romney just threw McCain under the bus.)

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:32 pm
by pigsteak
tomdarch, as an Illinoisan, name me one worthy accomplishment Obama had while serving in the Illinois senate. just one please, where he was the lead.