Josephine wrote:
although i don't quite understand. let's say i'm out with Super Jerry (aka S.J.). I set up the TR situation on the red rope. S.J. climbs up, gets to the top and is oh so proud. Now S.J. is ready to go down., so he anchors himself in with his Ashtray-Approved S.J. Anchor Cleaning Redundancy System - two locking biners tethered to his harness. He then removes the locking biners, pulls more rope through the quick links, and sets up his rappel and away he goes. More or less.
If S.J. is capable of doing all that, then I might as well set up the standard scenario of TRing through a set of quick draws. It's a lot faster to set up and it’s not going to take much more to set up the rap.
The only way this would make a good S.J. situation would be if I were, heaven forbid, lowering him through the fixed gear. In that situation, S.J. could climb up and be oh so proud. When ready to come down, S.J. simply removes the 2 locking biners, and I lower him to the ground. That scenario makes more sense to me.
Not that anyone would ever lower off fixed gear.
i like your style of smack talking. very subtle but smack nonetheless.
you are correct on the biner set up. it is so the last person can undue the biners and it's allready on clean mode. wether they lower or rap is whatever.
pulling the rope thru the hangers is not going to wear them out as fast as you may think. regular rap hangers hold up for quite a while.
piggie is right.....crap. the ADT is what he says. rapping off thru the hangers, chain, biners whatever is NOT the ADT. there are two points(redunduncy) and one rope. in the ADT one loop thru two bolts and one lower off point equals no redunduncy. take a look at your sally goes climbing book for clarification. nothing is unsafe as long as ROPE!! is yelled first.
