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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:59 pm
by JR
The "line" is the arete which goes all the way to the ground. The ledge is on that line. Allah started Parasdise Lost on a separate "line" (Castle has Fallen) then connected the two with a traverse along some pockets. Or did you mean the "climbing line" which is the common path that climbers use to safely climb the route as designated by a "line" of chalk.

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:08 am
by 512OW
From the FA, concerning the ledge:


User: allah Date: Jun 29th, 2005
Comments: What ever you want, I never used it cause it really isnt needed, its not a gym so what ever is there is in. Good luck yo



Sounds about right.

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:17 pm
by allah
I forgot to to stat in the post a long time ago that the route is down rated to 5.13a, so everyone go change your 8A score card

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:17 pm
by Power2U
12d

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:07 am
by JR
User: allah Date: Jun 29th, 2005
Comments: What ever you want, I never used it cause it really isnt needed, its not a gym so what ever is there is in. Good luck yo

I forgot to to state in the post a long time ago that the route is down rated to 5.13a, so everyone go change your 8A score card
Allah has spoken. Yasmeen make it so(at your leisure).

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:12 am
by JR
This might work out for you Allah now people might be a little more inclined to actually finish on Paradise Regained to get full 8a value.

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:01 pm
by notfromthecbus
damnit kenny!!! now i'm not in the top 50 anymore on 8a. I'M gonna blow the ledge up. haha

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:09 pm
by Yasmeen
Done. If you do decide you want it back at 13b at some point, Kenny, just say it.