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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:30 pm
by Mike Jones
you forgot your verb. how many parties are over, btw?
krampus wrote:the parties over anyway
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:45 pm
by pigsteak
512OW wrote:Heres the facts...
They can charge whatever the hell they want because we'll keep buying it.
That sounds like good business on their end.... Isn't that what America is all about?
OW, it is only good business when our heroes like John Edwards do it, and then build a 28,000 square foot home in North Carolina on 102 acres, and also take $50,000 from a university for giving a speech on....cough, cough..the "two Americas" and poverty
Any libbies on here calling him on the carpet for his greed? didn't think so...it is only that bastard cheney...
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:05 pm
by dhoyne
Gas prices = capitalism at its finest.
They can and will charge what the market will bear. They are just now realizing that they can keep pushing prices higher because we'll keep paying.
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:17 pm
by ReachHigh
In the long run this is the best thing to happen to the environment. There was a move to take legislative against SUVs (The loop hole allowing SUVs to be called farm equipment should still be closed), but the quite visible hand of greed will be what kills ultimately them off.
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:22 pm
by pigsteak
reach high..why is the SUV the problem and not our lack of car pooling and cutting down on non essential driving (climbing trips, trips to get a gallon of milk,etc)
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:35 pm
by Pru
Piggy, climbing trips are not non-essential.
I'm curious what, if anything, folks here are doing to conserve gas. I don't have to commute to work (home office), so I don't drive a lot anyway. I combine all of my errands into one weekly trip now, too, instead of driving into town multiple times per week. It just takes a little planning. If I run out of milk, I ask my mommy to pick some up for me.
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:46 pm
by L K Day
kirker wrote:Is consumption down or up since last year? I know the cost per barrall of oil is less.
Is it really our consumption or rather what we're willing to put up with.
No logic here just a simple question.
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Kirker, Fair question. I have no idea if consumption is up or down. Though I'd be surprised if it's not down a bit. Prices are determined by the interplay of supply and demand.
High supply and low demand = low prices
Low supply and low demand = medium prices
High supply and high demand = medium prices
Low supply and high demand = high prices
To understand the role of market forces on the price of gasoline it is helpful to realize that the demand for gasoline is "relatively inelastic."
This means much of our consumption is not discretionary. You must drive to work, or anyplace you go for that matter. The result of this inelastic demand is, up to a point, the demand for gasoline does not change as the price rises. Only when it becomes extremely expensive does consumption drop off. I'd say that phase is beginning now. Really want to cut our carbon emissions? $6.00 gas would help. You could do that with taxes and use the windfall to fund researching technologies that might lead toward clean energy independence.
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:46 pm
by krampus
If it were not for climbing, I would have choked my brothers wife two weeks ago. He may have thanked me, but it still would not have been good.
As far as conservation goes, I purposely moved where I could ride my bike to work, and can pretty much walk anywhere I need to go. the only driving i really do is to the climbing gym and the red. I don't often carpool from louisville, but I always pick up at least one or two people in Lexington. I also try to combine gym climbing and groceries.
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:07 pm
by Yasmeen
Pru wrote:I'm curious what, if anything, folks here are doing to conserve gas.
We commute to work, taking "back roads" to avoid sitting in standstill traffic on the interstate. I don't use a gas mower anymore. If for some reason I need to get somewhere after work, I take the Metro home to my car rather than driving two cars downtown (the exception being if I'm going to be leaving straight from downtown to drive to Lex or Slade on a Friday). We only go grocery shopping about once every 1.5 weeks. What else... in the winter, we keep the house at 65, and right now the A/C only kicks on if the house temp gets > 82. We only need to run the dishwasher and washer/dryer about once every 2 weeks. I think we have a pretty small footprint relative to most homeowners.
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:11 pm
by krampus
I almost forgot about my electric mower, I love that thing