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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:32 pm
by caribe
A grigri is the last piece of equipment on which I would want an unsupervised newbie belaying me. :shock:

1 the gri-gri was loaded wrong.

I doubt it. People always tug on the climbers end to check the auto block mechanism.

2. the lever was held down by a death grip.

this is the usual newbie grigri accident. One hears about it quite often.

3. slack was brought down but never taken in the gri-gri.

I cant imagine this scenario. Was this person a chimpanzee?

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:57 pm
by ynot
No they don't always check to see if it's loaded wrong. I make it a point to pull test but I have been known to forget. It happens.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:17 pm
by endercore
So the story first mentioned is for sure a rappeller?

And it's sad to hear about the gri-gri accident, heres to wishing Cliff a speedy recovery.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:37 pm
by anticlmber
caribe wrote:A grigri is the last piece of equipment on which I would want an unsupervised newbie belaying me. :shock:

1 the gri-gri was loaded wrong.

I doubt it. People always tug on the climbers end to check the auto block mechanism.

2. the lever was held down by a death grip.

this is the usual newbie grigri accident. One hears about it quite often.

3. slack was brought down but never taken in the gri-gri.

I cant imagine this scenario. Was this person a chimpanzee?
1) as YNOT said not everyone does check. MANY people do NOT double check anything. I have had people get annoyed with me for checking them, even after purposely doing loading a gri-gri wrong or tying into a gear loop. Drop the ego folks. YOU can be killed not just some "new" climber. And drop the gumby shit. All of you were one. most of you still are.
2) anyone can do it. Drop the newbie shit. NoONE is exempt.
3) This very thing happened in our old gym. Kid took in slack but did not pull it through the gri-gri. dad got to the top, let go, BOOM!!
plain and simple. Pretend everyday is your first day and check/double check you and your partner. Hell scan the whole crowd from time to time. You could just help save someone's life.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:27 pm
by 512OW
I know of at least one LONG fall caused by a GriGri loaded backward. 2 experienced climbers.... both climbing 13's.

Just last week, my girlfriend was 10 feet up the wall, and I was belaying like normal.... but no slack was being taken up. I had clipped into the wrong rope. With so many routes 8 feet from each other, and the other end hanging 15 or 20 feet from the base, I imagine it could happen pretty easily...

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:53 am
by Meadows
endercore wrote:So the story first mentioned is for sure a rappeller?

And it's sad to hear about the gri-gri accident, heres to wishing Cliff a speedy recovery.
It sounds like it is the same situation, but the writer lacks knowledge of climbing/mountain sports (just look at how he spelled "rappel").

Is this hippie Cliff from the Basset house?

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:53 am
by dmw
his mom was in the shop (Miguel's) the other day to pick up his car and said he should be fine. i guess he had to get a rod in his back, but he should be walking soon. Dario talked to her.... and knows more, but I think he is going to be ok. Scary stuff.

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:44 am
by pigsteak
anti climber is a gumby, and is just hiding his complex....long live the gumbo's

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:46 am
by kdelap
I am very curious to find out how Rappeling equipment fails; per the original post?????????????????????????????????????????????????

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:40 am
by Toad
kdelap wrote:?????????????????????????????????????????????????

Wow. You are curious.