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rhunt
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The Bible helped to justify salvery in our country...that is a fact! If there was no civil war in this country, a war that ended slavery, do you think there would be groups like the KKK? Thus, KKK ideals in there origin are Christian. Christianity has the potential to be just as voilent and hateful as any religion. The histroy of Christainity has already proven that.
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do you use the Bible as an historically accurate history textbook? do you use it if it fits your agenda? do you have an issue with black people enslaving black people? if you have a single cell creature does it have "potential" to become a shrubbery?
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rhunt, it depends on your agenda and how you justify it. lincoln proclaimed to be a christian, so you could say christianity actually should take credit for stopping slavery. or if you are looking to demonize christianity, then you take the opposite approach and say that christianity was the root behind slavery. depends on your agenda. you'd make a great libby politican. :wink:

(btw, I don't think christianity started slavery, only was used as a weak justification for it. I say econmics was the rationale. cheap labor, just like mexicans working for peanuts today.) and that ratioanle fits my agenda.
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Post by rhunt »

I thought that was all I was saying, that the bible justified slavery not started it. But as I look up at my post I can see how it reads that way, I will edit.

Everything has an agenda attached to it. To accuse my statement as just an agenda seeks to make it an invald agurment. oh well...

Correct me if I'm wrong, this thread is about the dangers of religion. The thread starter stated that radical islam is the most dangerous religion(his agenda). I was just sharing a different perspective(my agenda).

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rhunt...yes, yes, never, depends.
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Post by Day »

Rhunt, Since I've never read the bible, would you mind directing me to the passage or passages that justify slavery?
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Post by gulliver »

I don't run into these Americans who keep mum about terrorists. They (the terrorists) are also the lunatic fringe of their own faith believe it or not.

It's unfair to equate the opposition of what some see as an unjust, unnecessary war with indifference to the horrors of fundamentalist whackos. This isn't a holy war. There is a sense of nationalism and culturalism raised against us though. Some of them want to say it's a holy war, so we'll have our weirdos too. It's not a smart policy for waging war or foreign diplomacy and it shows.

It's equally unfair to lump all Christians into the same heap together with the Jesus Camp bunch. It's just that domestically, this sect tries to worm it's way into political significance in our own country. I'm all for people like Robertson and Falwell being refered to with the pejorative "the radical Christian cleric Pat Robertson, or Jerry Falwell". Maybe that would bring home to some people just how similar some of their shpiel is.

For what it's worth, the radicalized move you see in Islam shares with the fringe nutjobs here, a move towards conservatism.

PC, the term, has become such a cliche it doesn't have much relevence. Its use as a broad brush has made it a parody, but it does serve as a ball of catnip thrown into the middle of the right group. What is it exactly that we are not doing to these terrorists that we are doing to these nutjobs in some vacation bible school from hell? I think we have been killing terrorists and jailing terrorists. We've complained about the camp staff. People have a disagreement with who is labled a terrorist and with torture and with policy. Seems pretty weak cover for a difference of opinion.
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Day wrote: Since I've never read the bible, would you mind directing me to the passage or passages that justify slavery?
Well the good thing is , you won't find it unless you want to.
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Post by rhunt »

gulliver wrote:
Day wrote: Since I've never read the bible, would you mind directing me to the passage or passages that justify slavery?
Well the good thing is , you won't find it unless you want to.
hah..lol exactly, so have at it.
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Post by dyno_heaven »

and although islam has used the religion for violence, i believe bush has also affiliated Iraq with religion and God. so i still fail to see how islam is such a horrendus thing when christianity is not. just realie that almopst every religion has the potential to be used for violence, chritianity included, and this thread can be over
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