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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:55 pm
by pigsteak
well said RRO...terrible analogy by our esteemed colleague.
wirednut, giving back means ADDING to the cause, not making it a break even proposition...try again.
btw, your crazy creek, boots scuffling through the dirt while belaying, and your carbon monoxide emissions from your glory drive to the crag cause more harm than a dog...get over your mono mania...and replace the anchors on the leftmost 11 at torrent before someone gets seriously hurt TR'ing like you do...your free burns have left them completely worn out.
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:48 am
by wirednut
Porkchop, I completely concur. From now on I'm only going to walk to the crag and then hop from rock to rock, as long as you are ok with me scuffing up a bit of rock with my boot soles. I promise not to ever step on one more poor spec of dirt. Poor dirt.
Seriously, I only rarely see people tr through anchors. I'm sure it happens, and it is dumb as shit to do, but most of the anchor wear happens because of all us lowering off them. Don't believe it? Then check out some anchors on some of the steep ass stuff that NEVER gets tr'd through the anchors because the only climbers are those that are hard climbing and experienced enough to know better. Guess what? Still worn through...I've seen it at the Coliseum at NRG, at Rifle, at the Red.
Fact: Dirty ropes wear metal. BFD. Pony up and replace them or pay someone who can if you're worried about it. In the meantime think: mountain, molehill
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:35 pm
by marathonmedic
Any engineering students out there want a fairly easy project for a thesis? Test this theory! Measure the length of rope vs. the amount of wear on the quick-link, rap ring or chain link for weighted vs. non-weighted rope. If you assume the fixed gear would be replaced when it is 50% worn you just have to figure in the length of the climb to find out how many people need to climb to wear it out. You might even be able to get some donated supplies from equipment retailers. It might even be publishable in one of the climbing mags.
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:55 pm
by Zspider
wirednut wrote:
How can you take a victory whip on top rope, my friend?
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Probably do you good to reread the post. It stated "WHINING about toproping..." I admit that English can be tough.
ZSpiddy