Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:54 pm
mad props to pushing the mind. keeping your shit together and your technique tight at your limit is pretty incredible.
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:12 pm
That's amazing.
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:16 pm
ok seriously...do thoughts of "the climbing community" or "private land" really even register in people's minds when they are out climbing?
for me, no.
for me, no.
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:23 pm
private land yes,esp. at a place like torrent but climbing community no.
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:52 pm
Ho, are you taking illegal victory whippers?
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:21 pm
victory whip in da house
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:48 pm
maybe the problem is that the "community" is so rarely addressed. if everyone thinks only of themselves and goes out and solos shit and gets areas shut down, then there's nowhere else to climb.
personally, i have little respect for the whole "mental power" aspect of climbing. i think it's dangerous and selfish. go ahead and kill yourself at the top of some route while some family watches you get your shit smashed all over the rock. then have them go tell your family exactly what it felt like to watch you die, all so that you could spray about soloing the hardest route yet at the red and maybe pick up another sponsorship.
i don't think there is anything "courageous" or "admirable" about soloing; props to people for pushing themselves safely and becoming better climbers on rope, but i don't think that harder and harder solos necessarily add to the sport whatsoever.
personally, i have little respect for the whole "mental power" aspect of climbing. i think it's dangerous and selfish. go ahead and kill yourself at the top of some route while some family watches you get your shit smashed all over the rock. then have them go tell your family exactly what it felt like to watch you die, all so that you could spray about soloing the hardest route yet at the red and maybe pick up another sponsorship.
i don't think there is anything "courageous" or "admirable" about soloing; props to people for pushing themselves safely and becoming better climbers on rope, but i don't think that harder and harder solos necessarily add to the sport whatsoever.
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:49 pm
and by "mental power" i am referring to soloing, of course... definitely has a place in roped climbing 
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:55 pm
SCIN wrote:
I'm sure if it was John Bachar everyone would be okay with it.
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Haha! Good one! Congrats to Greg! WAHOOO!! You duh man!
ZSpiddy
I'm sure if it was John Bachar everyone would be okay with it.
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Haha! Good one! Congrats to Greg! WAHOOO!! You duh man!
ZSpiddy
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:17 pm
i have never heard of an area that has been shut down becuase of soloing. Can you provide an example?
generally the deaths and serious injuries I hear about in climbing come from complacency and lack of focus or natural causes (rockfall, avalanches) not from calculated risk. it is really really rare to hear of a death from free soloing. it is really really common to hear about a death from a botched rappell.
generally the deaths and serious injuries I hear about in climbing come from complacency and lack of focus or natural causes (rockfall, avalanches) not from calculated risk. it is really really rare to hear of a death from free soloing. it is really really common to hear about a death from a botched rappell.