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Hey, I have a novel idea...

Instead of posting inane diatribe, try offering some workable solutions. Seriously.

I like dogs. Many of you know, I really like your dogs and appreciate how well behaved they are when they visit the Valley. And, I don't believe banning dogs is a good solution. But, right now, there haven't been too many alternatives posted.

It has been suggested that only dog owners who can show that their pets can behave and who agree to keep them leashed can be given "permits" to allow them into the Valley. Seems like a big nuisence, but...

Am I too idealistic to hope that others who see dog owners disobeying rules should remind them of their disobedience?

If you fall into the "good dog owner" category and hope to continue to bring your little fuzzy into the Valley, please let us know your thoughts on how we can prevent misbehaving dogs from tearing up this place and creating sanitary and safety issues.

Rick

please pick up your dogs crap at the crag...don't let them dump in the woods and leave it. that is hypocritical to then tell humans to pack it out or bury it. carry plastic bags folks.

dogs do suck at the crag. my dog sucks at the crag. he runs on ropes when left unattended or with other dogs around. and at military, it is a disgusting mess..too much dust. but that is my fault..not his.

pigsteak wrote:...dogs do suck at the crag. my dog sucks at the crag. he runs on ropes when left unattended...

Heck, so do I!

You are too hard on yourself. Your dog is one of the good ones. I just wish he liked me a little more. I guess he's just too good a judge of character.

R

He has been caught red handed off the leash when I first met you and I knew better...I think he now has a guilty conscience.

Last summer, when I had just met Rick, and I knew the leash law, I was coming up the trail right behind the garage...my wife was way back with the leash, and River was ahead of me..unleashed.

Just then, Rick turns the corner around the garage. We were still about 100 feet away, so I casually took my stick clip, and hooked it on River's collar, pretending to "walk" my dog with the latest retention device.

I wonder if Rick ever noticed?

Umm let me think...YEAH!

I consider my dog to be one of the good ones too. Even so, I have to watch her very carefully. That's why she's good. If she starts playing with other dogs in a manner that annoys people, I sit her fanny down.

She generally takes a pre-crag dump but I need to be better about picking that up. Again, not her fault.

As for a solution, I don't find it inappropriate to demand proper behavior from our guests, furry or otherwise. First, I think climbers should monitor each other. If you see someone at Muir who doesn't have thier dog on a leash, speak out. Tell them about Torrent and let them know that they must obey the rules. If that doesn't work, I think banning dogs generally but allowing a few "good ones" who have owners that take responsibility for their pets is the only solution without a total ban.

Thanks for asking for our opinion and a workable solution Rick.

My dog is a drunk, but it isn't his fault.

i agree with Rick regarding a workable solution. I have held back in the past saying much to other dog owners (except the leash rule). But if my dog was f'en up and I didn't know it, I would expect someone to tell me. As a responsible dog owner, if anyone see's our dog (the one that looks like he just ate Little Red Riding Hood), please let my wife know Na..please let the both of us know.