please explain
go to the junkstore or whereever and get a 11/16" open/boxend wrench, drill a hole and thread with light cord, then you can tighten the nut or bolthead should you encounter a loose one, if you have no modicum of mechnical ability there is a chance you could overtighten it ( if you are one of those people who have ever broken a toilet by overtightening the bolts you qualify) so just snug it up but don't torque it hardcore-otay? in addition to this you can donate Loctite to the Team Suck jar at RRO- look for some soon I bought some at work and will leave next time I'm there, the threadlocker is for the quicklinks- be proactive not reactive
i would say the online guide is a good choice. i get lost in the threads sometimes and just mark all as read. plus people(ie piglet,j-rock,climbhigh,allah and all the other wankers bolting) only put routes up for the fame and glory of it. we stay up late into the night clicking on every route we have equipped reading every line thats been written about it. we are not only interested in who is doing our route but how famous we will be when it makes it to the album or if we are crazy lucky maybe even the front page. we are always checking our routes to see who has sent, how many stars it has earned and how much they are sandbagged/nonsandbagged. not to mention seeing our name online turns us on. really, its all for the ladies, brah.
im game for a board or drop box at the shop where people can put a problem down, people that know how to bolt/fix can review when they are in and can mark as it gets fixed. i would be glad to keep an update online as well.
if you find a loose bolt or a problem on one of my routes let me know. i will fix it as soon as possible. it happens everywhere and im sure the pmrp has its fair share.
im game for a board or drop box at the shop where people can put a problem down, people that know how to bolt/fix can review when they are in and can mark as it gets fixed. i would be glad to keep an update online as well.
if you find a loose bolt or a problem on one of my routes let me know. i will fix it as soon as possible. it happens everywhere and im sure the pmrp has its fair share.
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If you need to contact me , email me. Less Internet, less stress
If you need to contact me , email me. Less Internet, less stress
I've got no problem with people posting about loose bolts and this website is a good way to do it. However, it would probably be helpful to first try and contact the appropriate people. Like Sandy said, loose bolts happen and it isn't necessarily a reflection of the bolter doing a poor job.
I'm sure that Porter, Johnny, and many other developers have had loose bolts. But, to say (publicly or privately) that the developers are doing a poor job and should be ashamed and that the place should be closed down is taking it a bit too far in my opinion. Also, saying (in private emails or otherwise) that the developers are too inexperienced or that loose bolts only happen in one particular area isn't the same thing as saying "Hey, such and such route has a loose bolt".
That said, I don't see why any area should receive special treatment concerning loose bolts. They happen everywhere regardless of the skills of the developers. However, as a courtesy, it would be polite to respect the landowners wishes regarding these matters.
Therefore, feel free to pm Rick (or myself or any of the other MV developers) anytime about a loose bolt in Muir Valley (regardless of who was involved with the FA of that route). I will then do my best to see that it is looked into as soon as possible. If you don't know how to reach us then make a comment on the online guide or post it on the redriverclimbing.com forums. Thank you.
I'm sure that Porter, Johnny, and many other developers have had loose bolts. But, to say (publicly or privately) that the developers are doing a poor job and should be ashamed and that the place should be closed down is taking it a bit too far in my opinion. Also, saying (in private emails or otherwise) that the developers are too inexperienced or that loose bolts only happen in one particular area isn't the same thing as saying "Hey, such and such route has a loose bolt".
That said, I don't see why any area should receive special treatment concerning loose bolts. They happen everywhere regardless of the skills of the developers. However, as a courtesy, it would be polite to respect the landowners wishes regarding these matters.
Therefore, feel free to pm Rick (or myself or any of the other MV developers) anytime about a loose bolt in Muir Valley (regardless of who was involved with the FA of that route). I will then do my best to see that it is looked into as soon as possible. If you don't know how to reach us then make a comment on the online guide or post it on the redriverclimbing.com forums. Thank you.
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"Those iron spikes you use have shortened the life expectancy of the Totem Pole by 50,000 years."
--A Navaho elder
--A Navaho elder
All the bolt drama cracks me up. saves me time and trouble building an anchor when someone has put a pair of bolts on top of a route. If one is suspicious its easy enough to back it up. Only thing I wonder is who took the pitons from Horny B*tch? They were cool...well one was good.
"Everyone should have a plan for the zombie apocolipse" Courtney
Stop me if you've heard this before:
Has anyone thought about leaving contact information about issues on the route page? I.E. all MV routes would have a contact email address or PM of the equipper or Rick or someone, you know, on a link that says "Route Issues" or something... If nobody wants to maintain it or leave an addy, then whoever puts the route in the DB can just say, "route issues go to RRGCC", "contact FA", or "Unknown/Not Maintained".
Oh, and if the route isn't maintained/no contact info etc., it would just post your issue directly under the route.
Just a thought. I only want to help. I could see how this might increase workload in terms of back end dev on rrc, but it might cut down on the time spent talking about it in forums.
I also hope I'm not posting in the wrong forum, but since we were on the subject... Thought I would try to contribute something positive. I've been solving problems all day at work, thought I might try to lend a hand here too.
Has anyone thought about leaving contact information about issues on the route page? I.E. all MV routes would have a contact email address or PM of the equipper or Rick or someone, you know, on a link that says "Route Issues" or something... If nobody wants to maintain it or leave an addy, then whoever puts the route in the DB can just say, "route issues go to RRGCC", "contact FA", or "Unknown/Not Maintained".
Oh, and if the route isn't maintained/no contact info etc., it would just post your issue directly under the route.
Just a thought. I only want to help. I could see how this might increase workload in terms of back end dev on rrc, but it might cut down on the time spent talking about it in forums.
I also hope I'm not posting in the wrong forum, but since we were on the subject... Thought I would try to contribute something positive. I've been solving problems all day at work, thought I might try to lend a hand here too.