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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:58 pm
by busty
VA - No not really. That's once reason why there were major problems over Harriet Miers' nomination. A huge chunk of her legal "product" is advice to the White House as counsel. The majority of it is arguably privileged, thus wouldn't be release for the Senate's consideration.

On the Iraq issue, I don't think the entire Senate has access to everything Bush sees regarding intelligence.

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:36 pm
by pigsteak
hmmm, so Busty, are you saying that Bush lied about Iraq, but the Democratic senators just made a bad choice?

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:46 pm
by meetVA
no i'm thinking she's saying that the senators had the bad judgement to believe that they were being given the truth.

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:49 pm
by pigsteak
and, ms. VA, where exactly do you think that intel came from? why, the CIA of course...a supposedly non-partisan agency. what I can't understand is why so many people don't realize that the intel was 90% wrong, and that is a problem with specific agencies, not with the president or the senators. It's fun and feels good to blame the demons on the other side of the aisle, but in reality this is a complete failure by America's spy network. let's focus blame where it belongs.

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:03 pm
by mcrib
Why when there are people who have since retired from the CIA that say the Bush administration were so eager for any intel that would help make their case for war that finally Tenet gave in and gave them the junk intel that came from who knows where. Not from people like Joe Wilson who went to Niger and denied the infamous report that Iraq was trying to acquire Uranium from that country. Instead they leaked the name of his wife, an undercover CIA agent herself, to the media. Bush decided to put that information in his State of the Union addresse and sent poor Colin Powell to the UN with the same worthless lies.

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:27 pm
by pigsteak
yawn...old hat. I am 100% for this investigation. No stonewalling, just the unvarnished truth. When the true facts come out, then we'll all know more. But right now, it is a bunch of he said , she said.

Just curious..if no one else is indicted, will all you Bush haters be okay with that finding, or will you go to your grave insisting that he lied and misled? I am thinking that most people already have their mind made up, even before Fitzgerald is finished.

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 10:26 pm
by ynot
I'm suprised when politicians don't lie and misslead.

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:03 pm
by busty
pigsteak wrote:hmmm, so Busty, are you saying that Bush lied about Iraq, but the Democratic senators just made a bad choice?
I don't see how you get that out of my post. Anyway, I just meant that the president gets all kinds of briefings on a lot of things and senators are privy to those things 100% of the time.

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:41 pm
by Alan Evil
Scooter!

Scooter!

Scooter!

Libby!

Fuck, it's almost funny if you scream it at the top of your lungs while beating your head with a brick.

Karl!

Rove!

Oh fuck. I think I broke something.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:19 am
by pigsteak
I knew it wouldn't be too long before old razor wire would be piping in. Nice to have you brickhead...