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IS that a quote?

no.. but you can quote me if you like

pigsteak wrote:what would jared do? he'd leave all the loose rock up there and call it a "natural" line.

Nah, I take a hammer to anything and everything that looks suspect for the safety of future climbers. However, taking a hammer to an entire route is still no guarantee that something else won't come loose later or that a climber will get off route (sport or trad). Sometimes I wish I could just leave them in their natural state. This is a little bit easier to do with trad routes, but even then I still remove the worst of the loose blocks, fragile flakes, lichen, moss, etc. Of course, it will never be perfect though and Nature has a way of going through cycles of change with new growth, powerful storms, freezing and thawing, animal life, fallen trees, etc.

By the way, the route at Nelson had quite a few bolted pitches and all of the belays were bolted as well. I've also seen plenty of people get off of route on sport climbs too (even with all those fancy bolts).

Paul, do you have a story about the dreaded jaguar shark that you could share with us? Please?

yeah! tell us of your undersea adventures!!!

jaguars are leaving traces around the southern Arizona area, they were the only cat native to north America that roared- reach out to Islam and then fart