Training/projecting/climbing hard and having fun....

[rhunt]

In essence, this quote

I'd rather climb 5.12 with a hangover than 5.14 with an eating disorder.

Is expressing the oppinion that it is not possible to climb 5.12 with a hangover AND 5.14 with an eating disorder. Thus, he is suggesting that the two ARE mutually exclusive.

But what if you are an anorexic, alcoholic climber? Is it possible for a person like that to climb 5.14?

Is that really how you translate that quote? huh?

[Alan Evil]

Jesus, people. He's saying you can "project" and "have fun," "train" and "have fun," and/or "climb hard" and "have fun" at the same time. Just because you're "climbing hard" doesn't mean you can't also be having fun. It also doesn't mean you can't train and climb hard at the same time. Or that you can't work a project and climb hard while training and having fun. They aren't mutually exclusive.

Do anorexic alcoholics get drunk faster? If so, I'm giving up on eating.

[dipsi]

The alcoholics in my life were anorexic. I think it goes with the liquid diet or something like that.

[Huggybone]

Parhaps clarification is needed

I'd rather climb 5.12 with a hangover than 5.14 with an eating disorder.

Means he would prefer to do one or the other, and lightly implies that the two can't go together.
But then again, if you are anorexic, and climb 5.14, it also follows that you can climb 5.12. And, since it is apparently easy for an anorexic to get drunk (being hungry all the time, after all), we can then conclude that the two are NOT mutually exclusive. Further, since the 5.14 anorexic climber CAN get drunk, and is still classified as a 5.14 climber, we can conclude that he/she can get drunk and still climb 5.14

SO
Based on this statement,

I'd rather climb 5.12 with a hangover than 5.14 with an eating disorder.

It follows that:
1) You can climb 5.12 hung over
2) you can climb 5.12 with an eating disorder
3) If you are a 5.14 climber with an eating disorder, you can still climb 5.14, but, more importantly,
4) you can get drunk as hell and still climb 5.14

[marathonmedic]

Anal Rentative Police here. FYI (in case anybody cares, probably not)...

1. Anorexics aren't hungry. The hunger mechanism dies after a few days. Also, they also have huge issues with guilt, fear and food. The first two cancel out the desire for the third. (Yes, some people compensate for guilt with food, but that's a totally different topic.)

2. Ethanol contains 7 kcal/gm (carbs and proteins = 4, fats = 9). Serious drunks can actually get most of their calories from booze, but ironically it actually causes low blood sugar. If anyone wants the details, pm me. I'm studying biochem today and don't want to overspew.

Okay, that's enough lecturing for now. I don't mean to call anybody out, but it's just the teacher in me.

[marathonmedic]

It can be a lot of fun climbing something really hard and getting shut down. I like those hard routes that get on you and then don't let up until they're done. (Kind of like HoFo, but they last longer.) Caspian knows a certain 11d like that. You may not walk away with a send, but you learn a lot about your climbing and yourself. That's one of the major reasons I climb, not just to see what's on top.

[J-Rock]

I'm starting to enjoy this thing called "projecting". I've been training twice a week for a specific route and whenever I want to quit or give up I imagine I am high above the forest on some sweet Red River sandstone as I continue to fight the pump. This visualization in my training for a specific goal is really becoming quite enjoyable. The best part of all is that I'm starting to see improvements in my endurance! I'm even starting to "project" my "training" routes to do more and more laps, mix in some boulder problems, etc. and it gives me something to look forward to while endlessly mixing together a bunch of chemicals at work!

Anway, Now I have returned home from my training and I've rewarded myself with a big beer and some barbecued chicken. Mmm...

[marathonmedic]

What kind of training are you doing?

[Spragwa]

Yeah, my friend Jen loves to project. That girl is badass, amazing to climb with and has the best attitude about rock climbing ever. She doesn't really "train" though. But she's one of those natural athlete people. Oh, and I kinda like her, can you tell?

[Spragwa]

Actually, I know a lot of people who love projecting. I think it's awesome!