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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:30 am
by pigsteak
ok, listen up all you topropers...this bastardization of our beloved sport has got to stop...immediately! tradsters were beside themselves when sporties came along, but toproping has degraded the sport even further....the question in the poll is worded all wrong....it asks how hard you can send on toprope...well, there is no such thing as a send on toprope....if you "send" on TR, you must pull the %$^# rope and lead the route before you spray....I'm about to blow a gasket here...toproping is not legit....it is only for practicing, not real climbing.

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:42 am
by haas
I lead the same level as I toprope. I like leading, but am not so crazy about it that if the rope is already up I feel a need to pull it and relead it. I guess I'm just lazy. I do agree steep routes are a pain to TR, so I prefer to lead them first and have the next guy worry about getting the draws down.

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:13 pm
by sumdog
toproping scares the hell out of me. much rather lead! don't like the idea that only the anchors are going to hold me if i fall. more focused and pumped up on a hard lead. get more satisfaction out of leading. that's just me though.

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:44 pm
by pigsteak
sumdog...irrational fear..when is the last time you heard of two bolts failing on a toprope excursion? think about it...the load on one bolt from a lead fall is way more than sitting back on a toprope with two anchors. if you want fear, I'd say leading is a better choice.

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:11 pm
by Toad
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:35 pm
by squeezindlemmon
pus: thick opaque usually yellowish white fluid matter formed by suppuration and composed of exudate containing white blood cells, tissue debris, and microorganisms.

EEEEEWWWWWW... :mrgreen:

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:56 pm
by diggum
yeah ewwww...but not :mrgreen:
more like :?

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 9:03 pm
by sumdog
if what you say is true pigsteak, then i guess i've made the right choice. lead on!!!!

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:32 pm
by Spoonman
It knocks my head-phones off when I TR....So that gets pretty annoying. I somethimes TR to clean steep routes, but I'd much rather lead.