Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 10:07 pm
If you're a newbie and you just redpointed it, then it's 12a. But if you're an old crusty who speaks for the embitterment of the climbing newbies, it's 11c/d.
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 10:23 pm
Meadows, please don't have me bumped. I couldn't resist.
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:38 am
i don't think it is the most controversial climb in the red. the grade may be the most contested but not controversial.
still old school 9
still old school 9
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:19 pm
For two years my hardest red point was also my hardist onsite 11b. 
but It dosent matter to me. I guess my onsite abbility has gone up, but then agen I only boulder now. So my hardest onsite would be V5 and hardist problome is Sigone and they change the rating almost every year. V6 whin I did it now its back up to V7? WTF? But serosly folks go to the buttermilks and try Sigone, its the shit.
but It dosent matter to me. I guess my onsite abbility has gone up, but then agen I only boulder now. So my hardest onsite would be V5 and hardist problome is Sigone and they change the rating almost every year. V6 whin I did it now its back up to V7? WTF? But serosly folks go to the buttermilks and try Sigone, its the shit.Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:26 am
i thought that "Saigon" was V5 and "Saigon Direct" was V7 (not from personal experience--from a guidebook)usccabum1985 wrote:So my hardest onsite would be V5 and hardist problome is Sigone and they change the rating almost every year. V6 whin I did it now its back up to V7? WTF? But serosly folks go to the buttermilks and try Sigone, its the shit.
the Direct variation doesn't make the traverse rightward?