Booty Ethics

Post by **Caspian** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:15 pm

Gaar wrote:What is being considered as booty?

1 Draw, The acnhor draws, the last four bolts, draws on the whole damn thing?

anything more than a single biner or quicklink per bolt on a sport route I would not consider booty. Anything on the anchor I would not consider booty.

Post by **Gaar** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:08 pm

Thats you! And i Agree

anything more than a single biner or quicklink per bolt on a sport route I would not consider booty. Anything on the anchor I would not consider booty.

But what about everybody else?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:44 am

this is a trad discussion. Any and all trad gear left on a route, with the exception of gear left in an injury situation, is booty. Always has been. If people don't like that, they should learn not to leave gear behind.

Post by **pigsteak** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:08 am

and how ms. davsa, do you know if it was left in an injury situation? blood stains?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:18 am

usually there are witnesses or rescue personnel involved in carryouts. If not, it's usually a good sign when there is more than one bail piece or bail anchor, since people in accident situations generally don't have time to clean gear. Most trad climbers are going to realize this. Of course there are exceptions, but any yahoo who finds a shit ton of gear in a crack and thinks it's booty is gonna lose in the karma department.

Post by **pigsteak** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:23 am

I was bolting in So Ill last fall, and had left a static line set up under a roof..with three cams as th anchor...came back the next weekend, and two cams and the rope were gone...the poser had to of rapped off of one cam to get a shitty statis rope and two other cams..the wierd part..he left the best cam (alien), but its placement was very marginal...I would've laughed my ass off if he would've died stealing my gear....

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:30 am

maybe he took a few whippers on that static line and is now paralyzed!

Post by **ynp1** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:44 am

if it is left or found at the base it is booty. i took a guys aider when he dropped it off of leaning tower, but i was pissed because he was going really slow and made me have to bail. fuck maybe im an asshole, but he did speak english so i didnt know what he was yelling at me...

Post by **Alan Evil** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:06 am

Always take out more than you take in. Right?

Post by **TradWanker** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 8:07 pm

Hell, anything left unsecured ANYWHERE in the area is considered "booty" by many of the subhumans crawling around the Red. I left countless quick links on anchors, hoping they would be used to save wear on the anchors, only to return and find them gone. I've had my cooler robbed of beer at Miguel's for Christ's sake!! Some people just don't get it.