Excuses

Post by **diggum** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 6:50 pm

Good for all:

I suck.

I've also heard (and you know who you are

)
"Oh great! A flock of birds flying in a V...that's my good luck sign...we're going to have a great day of climbing."
Must be pretty accurate way to predict b/c we did.

Post by **J-Rock** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 6:53 pm

Usually I say I'm going to have a good day of climbing if I take a big shit in the morning. That's when you know you can send some hard shit! Hard shit...

Post by **diggum** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 6:58 pm

Everyday that starts with taking a big shit is a good day, right?

Post by **dipsi** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 6:59 pm

Thank you.

Post by **Wes** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 7:05 pm

J-Rock wrote:Usually I say I'm going to have a good day of climbing if I take a big shit in the morning. That's when you know you can send some hard shit! Hard shit...

http://www.redriverclimbing.com/viewtop ... rning+dump

Wes

Post by **Wes** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 7:15 pm

Oh, and not getting that nice morning dump is one of my excuses for not sending.

Wes

Post by **lordjim_2001** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 7:18 pm

That thread makes so much more sense after climbing with Wes and seeing it in action.

Post by **TradMike** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 7:35 pm

J-Rock wrote:
TradMike wrote:The raven was flying against the direction of our travel on the hike in.
Cool, that's a good one. Is that kind of like a black cat crossing your path?

It's very similar if you are at all superstitious. I tend to be a little on the superstitious side because I have seen too many correlations in the past that I don't ignore "signs" anymore. Call me crazy.

It has to do with mythology and the bird itself. Ravens are the Einsteins of the bird world. No other birds even come close to matching their intelligence. Sailors kept ravens on their boats and would release them when they were out at sea. The ravens would fly in the direction of land. They also know how to make tools for their own benefit. Ravens will remain mated for life.

Likely inspired by the ravens' “ambulance chasing” throughout historical plagues and battles, the raven is thought to be a bird of ill omen and death.

For the Celts, the raven is associated with prophecy and divination. The ravens' flight and cawings could tell the future.

Tibetan religious tradition considers raven the only messenger of the Supreme Being

People of the Congo Basin regard the raven as the bird that warns people of dangers that threaten them

There are numerous instances, in real life, where the raven has acted as a messenger and a guide. I think it saved my ass on Hallet Peak. We backed off halfway up the climb. One particular raven would not stop bothering us and yelling at us as we hiked in - weird.

Post by **diggum** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 7:53 pm

I think it saved my ass on Hallet Peak. We backed off halfway up the climb. One particular raven would not stop bothering us and yelling at us as we hiked in - weird.

You say that you think it saved your ass...why do you think that? Just b/c it was bothering you or did something happen to someone else on that particular climb that "could've been" you?

I'm not attacking your logic, I'm fascinated!

Post by **TradMike** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 8:49 pm

We wanted to climb the Northcutt-Carter route on Hallet Peak because of it being in the 50 classics of North America book. We thought it would be a stroll in the park (III 5.7). Bad vibes, sketchy pro, long runouts, hard route finding thwarted our efforts. Oh, and the entire bottom of the climb detached the following year.