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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:48 am
by marathonmedic
OZ wrote:I don’t think the two scenarios are alike at all.
Two dudes were at the cliff climbing and falling on their route. After awhile they left. As they past by, we asked if they were giving up and leaving so soon. They said, “Yeah, we had to bail.” So there. They bailed and left all those draws. My friend who has been climbing for quite a while - although mostly in the gym - said they left bail booty. We figured it was because they wanted to be safe when lowering. They never said they were coming back.
*different post*
Uh, super genius, it would be really hard to give them back since they don't have names on them. The two ropes I got didn't have names, either.
If we can take a small step back for a minute, EXACTLY HOW MANY draws are we talking about that someone left on a single climb for you to booty? Didn't you also say something about booty-ing two ropes, too, or did I miss the sarcasm?
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 1:53 pm
by OZ
The number of draws varied. The climbs that were really hard to stickclip up seemed to have almost all the draws on.
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 2:28 pm
by Thrax
I like to poop in those packs that people leave unattended.
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 2:32 pm
by marathonmedic
OZ wrote:The number of draws varied. The climbs that were really hard to stickclip up seemed to have almost all the draws on.
The general rule of thumb is anything more than two draws on a project means they're not booty draws but project draws and therefore should be returned. Seems to me that a lot of people would bail off of a biner or two instead of using entire draws. What routes/ratings did they come off of?
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 5:16 pm
by Horatio Felacio
are you talking about carabiners or real beaners? i've seen a few beaners at the crags in my day, but not many. my experience is that they're always drunk trying to deep fry frozen things. you see em jumping the fences across the border on tv. you take all you want oz. nobody wants them. if they leave beaners on a route it probably means they were trying to hang them because they were tired of them saying a bunch of jibberish all the time. "who wakeee mi no se? yo soy la vaca grande! me gusta bailar con queso"
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 5:24 pm
by dhoyne
Why go through all that effort? I just get all my gear from parked, um, I mean abandoned cars near the Motherlode! Tons of free gear!
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 6:44 pm
by Roentgen Ray
This may seem crazy, but when I see people bail from a route I always ask them if they would like me to clean the route and retrieve their gear. Sure, I'm trusting my life to the belaying skills of a couple of guys that couldn't get up a jug-hual 5.9 on a hemp rope, but that makes it all the more sporting.
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 6:47 pm
by captain static
Isn't it good to see Ho back on the bbs? I've biting my tongue on the latino humor potential of this thread's subject.
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 12:42 am
by OZ
Maybe I can use them to haul around all the booty I've gotten when people bail on routes.