Better access beta on Muir Valley.

Post by **squeezindlemmon** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 12:10 pm

geezer wrote:Although it may increase the odds that your offspring will be born with six toes or some other mutation, deet provides a good defense against chiggers.

Offsprings with six toes would make good climbers.

Thanks again, Rick and Liz!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 12:23 pm

haha I like your attitude, Squeez!

Rick, Liz - thank you VERY much!!

Post by **vic** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 2:52 pm

What are chiggers?
Any other name associated with these "things"?
Any relative that would help me visual them?

Muir Valley sounds like a great place - just got my waiver back!

so I am pretty happy about that!!!

Rick: What is your position on dogs entering your premises?

Post by **pianomahnn** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:11 pm

geezer wrote:5. The Valley route setters often leave gear in place and equipment stashed while developing a new area. Please don't consider this to be "booty."

I was over at the 5.10 wall on Saturday and noticed a nice orange bucket. It looked about the perfect size for my ass. Sittin' down > *

I was quite upset when this boootyful bucket had loads o' gear under it.

Post by **squeezindlemmon** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:26 pm

pianomahn, you can still use the bucket for a belay lounge, just make sure you return it in the same manner found.... I use that bucket a lot too!

I think there's a rope in it and that is ours, we try to leave it down there in case we need to work on cleaning/equipping two routes and wish to save time.

Vic, from the chiggers that I've encountered down there, you're pretty much SOL bec I've never seen them. I just feel their presence after a few hours and sometimes even a full week after that. Just spray away with DEET.

Post by **Jeff** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:31 pm

vic wrote:What are chiggers?
Any other name associated with these "things"?
Any relative that would help me visual them?

Muir Valley sounds like a great place - just got my waiver back! so I am pretty happy about that!!!

Rick: What is your position on dogs entering your premises?

Chiggars are tiny little things (bugs) that live on plants. They get on you, bite/burrow into your skin, and cause much itching.

Another name would be those G** D**n F****** chiggers.

I've never met any of your relatives so I can't help you there.

http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2100.html

Post by **lordjim_2001** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:35 pm

vic wrote:What are chiggers?
Any other name associated with these "things"?
Any relative that would help me visual them?

http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2100.html

http://www.conservation.state.mo.us/nat ... /chiggers/

http://insects.tamu.edu/extension/bulletins/L-1223.html

How about that vic. Annoying little buggers. When I was younger and after I was bitten I'd put clear nail polish on the bites to try and kill them if they are still attached.

Post by **t bone** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 7:28 pm

Vic, dogs are okay. Just make sure the dog is leashed. I have not had any chigger bites yet, even bushwacking around with shorts and no shirt on. I do put plenty of deet on.

Post by **weber** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 7:31 pm

vic wrote:Muir Valley sounds like a great place - just got my waiver back! so I am pretty happy about that!!!

Rick: What is your position on dogs entering your premises?

Dogs on leashes are more than welcome. We've met several very nice pets down there.

We don't want to encourage "FreeRange animals" (including children)

. Dogs can bite, and children can fall off cliffs... (or is it the other way around?)

Rick

Post by **Wicked Tribe** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 8:30 pm

geezer wrote:The identifying feature of the rattle snake is its rattle (duh). The copperhead has pupils that constrict vertically, giving its eyes a cat-like appearance. The pupils of non-venomous snakes stay round even when constricted.

Actually a better distinguishing feature (for those that don't want to get close enough to see their beady little eyes) is the shape of the head. Poisonous snakes have a sort of arrowhead shaped head while non-poisonous snakes tend to have narrower heads.

You won't miss a rattlesnake. Typically if you actually see a copperhead you'll know it. Its when you see a non-poisonous snake that most people are uncertain. In any case, if you're not sure just give 'em all a wide right of way.