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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 3:55 am
by Wes
Vic, speaking personally, I usually find your *message* to be less then clear. I don't doubt that it sounds right in your head, but when it comes out, it just isn't all that clear to me what you are trying to say. The other thing is that you tend to come off as a blindly following, drank the kool aid, RRGCC mini me.

Oh, and I thought you gave your good bye speach already?

Wes

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 4:17 am
by spuzo
speech
:mrgreen:

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 6:50 am
by vic
Wes... Thanks for the feedback. I will make it a point to use concise sentences in the future. It is sometimes a difficult task to simply state facts without sounding harsh. This reply is not short, not by any means, but it does cover the majority of the questions asked.

Let’s start by clearing up the air…
By nature, I am not a follower, but when I see something good, I jump on it and take a number of initiatives. In this case, it is the RRGCC, but from what I have seen so far, I can now honestly say that the Coalition is not immune to disappointments. This is true to any organization for a number of reasons that I will spare.

I have seen a great number of people, had great discussions with many climbers in many states. I am getting a clearer picture of the task at hand.

Within the Coalition, there is a lot of hard work ahead. Building better communication and awareness is crucial to this organization. Different phases have been set in place. Its future looks very good.

Personally, I will dedicate a lot of my time to better communicate what is going on inside the Coalition, and to increase climber’s awareness. It will be entirely up to you (the climber) to decide how much effort you place into calling me a “whiney french homo bitch”, or “RRGCC mini me”. Another option could be spending the same energy and time into climbing… and keeping it open.

Call me what you’d like – but in time, you will simply see me as a concerned climber who lays his cards on the table and will continue to do so.

The Coalition is being bashed – and I conclude that most of it is because people are reading too far between the lines, not reading enough of the information presented to them, or simply because the Coalition is not providing enough information.

The information is changing rapidly. That’s a fact. But rest assured that there is a lot of work being conducted right now, and many hours are being spent into the task – a task that I personally summarize as: Keeping climbing open at the Red… but there is a whole lot more to that.

The Coalition will do its part. E-Co Newsletter, Gym Talk Series, etc… have received super positive feedbacks. There’s more, and a whole lot more to come as part of the different phases of communication.

What can climbers do? I sum it all up into: Stay informed.
Informed means care about finding out the real facts, and not the gossip. We are facing serious matters that need serious considerations. A serious climber is like a paradox but if we want to change the attitude of others towards us, we will have to change our very own attitude first. Together, we can change how the State Parks looks at us.

Here’s what climbers can do:
1. Follow simple guidelines
(http://www.thered.org/downloads/keep-climbing-open.pdf)
This is the single and most important thing climbers can do (themselves, and by informing others).

2. Stay informed
Visit the RRGCC’s main web site, and visit Miguel’s Kiosk. Visit also means read documentation that pertains to all of us. The site is updated every couple of days with the latest events taking place. www.rrgcc.org

3. Ask the RRGCC
Don’t hesitate! You have a question, a doubt, a legitimate concern… ask and obtain feedback within hours at: info@thered.org

4. Carry a positive attitude
Exercise a positive attitude while on the crag. Not only will this most likely help your climbing, but a land-owner will appreciate a positive attitude far more than a negative one. That keeps climbing open.

5. Help the Coalition
As a non-profit organization, our success is dependant on us – climbers. I am sure you have a special talent. Maybe you have something you can provide the Coalition with… Either way, we have a number of tasks we would love to delegate. Get involved in your climbing community.

6. Become a member
Join the RRGCC and become a member. Most of our member’s fees are placed directly into the Murray Property.

7. Participate
Plan with us, and be present with us during special events.


This post originated with posting a schedule. It was intended for those interested climbers. If you were not able to make it, that’s unfortunate, but not the end of the world. You can easily obtain information through the www.rrgcc.org website, and if you need more facts or specific questions answered, I totally invite you. Feel free to email: info@thered.org