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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 2:48 pm
by rhunt
then Johnny and Ray better edit the guide, I'd hate to see generations of climbers to come all being miss lead :mrgreen:

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 2:57 pm
by SCIN
Yea, it just might effect your chances of sending the route. I almost did it this past weekend but I fell right at the anchors after the little trivia midget at the top asked me when the FA was done. I was like "1996!!!" and he pulled on his beard then said "No, my friend. You are wrong" and stepped on my hand which caused me to fall.

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 4:07 pm
by Power2U
Excellent point rhunt!

I wonder did Porter bolt and do Mercy the Huff first or Table's original line :?:

It's kinda like which came first the chicken or the egg / the Huff or the Table :?:

HO,

Now now...everybody knows the original start to Scissors is DA BOMB :!:

-and-

Isn't Revival like 12c without the campus start :wink:

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 4:10 pm
by Power2U
News Flash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

18. Mercy, the Huff 5.12c *** (S)
This route shares the first bolt of the original start of Table of Colors, then heads right.
FA: Porter Jarrard, Chris Snyder, 1991.
Cold shuts. Bouldery. 80 ft. 9 bolts. Stays dry: Downpour.

Apparently Mercy the Huff shares the start with Table as it was done the following year. Interesting.

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 5:21 pm
by Horatio Felacio
dude, you're kidding yourself if you think the original way is just as good or better. i'm not saying it's terrible, but it isn't the direct line for table of colors. i don't give two shits about what the guidebook says or doesn't say. anyone who goes and looks will see it.

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 5:30 pm
by rhunt
I've heard that with a couple of crash pads the direct start is a fun boulder problem!

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 5:38 pm
by pigsteak
ok, I went and looked and see....

Since table went up first, it is the original line..I measured the two starts...
the original one traverses 6 feet 3 inches to be below bolt 4.

the direct start traverses a whopping 9 feet 7.5 inches to be under bolt 4...

so, the original line is LESS of a traverse than the direct, although certain posers on here like to bad mouth the "evils" of traversing....lmao.

(btw, I made this all up...but go look for yourself, as Ho suggests.)

and how dare, as the great allah has surmised, attempt a route at your limit. yes, pulling 13a at the Red is now considered weak, for all you wannabe sprayers at miguel's..you have been fore warned...

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 5:43 pm
by the lurkist
instead of beating to fucking death a good but old route, how bout all youse motha fukas getting your drill on and put up some new classics? huh, allah bitch?

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 6:27 pm
by pigsteak
spraying is much more fun from the nose bleed section lurkist...I am guilty..hell, I didn't even make it out to help you on the retro fit...but point is well taken.

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 6:52 pm
by jabbathehut
get back to work piggy