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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 12:37 am
by kclimb
I say if you want to run around naked, go for it. If someone doesn't like it, they can turn their head and not look. Shouldn't they be watching the climber anyway?! :lol:

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 4:09 am
by Yasmeen
Wes, you rule. That was very, very well said.

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 7:01 am
by Wicked Tribe
Gee...everyone takes the polls so seriously. I didn't really want any specific results. I just wanted to poke fun at people that whine about the hardships of nature while consciously choosing to be out of doors. I hate the bugs, the humidity, the steep approaches, the rhodo thrashing and all. BUt I don't let those things dissuade me from doing what I want to do or going where I want to go. And after so many years I kinda begin to enjoy all of it. Its the stuff that makes it hard that makes it worth it.

I don't really care if you love the wilderness experience or not. And its not about getting away from the crowds so much either. I've been with people that moaned about the steepness of the approach from the oil road to the InBetween Wall.

This is just another way for me to say: "If you're having trouble with the approach then maybe climbing isn't for you."

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 9:58 am
by Dwayne
I do get into bushwacking my way to a crag, it gives me a greater sense of being in a wilderness environment. The best is when I'm able to top out on a climb and get a great view. I guess thats one of the best reasons to climb, ...for the view.

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 11:33 am
by Yasmeen
Wicked Tribe wrote:This is just another way for me to say: "If you're having trouble with the approach then maybe climbing isn't for you."
That's cool, since it's up to you to make that call.

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 2:03 pm
by kclimb
Isn't the approach, whether it's short, long, steep or flat, all a part of climbing? When I go climbing, I expect to have to "get to the crag". I climb the easiest part - the approach - getting to the route. Do I always enjoy it? no. Do I do it anyway? Absolutely!!

That's one way of looking at it I guess.

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 3:41 pm
by pigsteak
hmmm...almost 50% of respondents picked the option with "peace and quiet" attached. I see that as another vote for "no dogs" at the crags. If you think this doesn't apply to your mutt, think again. No ones pet is as good as the owner perceives.

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 4:20 pm
by kclimb
you're right... my dogs are not as good as I perceive, they're better!

I'd much rather hear my dogs playing and having fun than someone "grunting & yelling" their way up a route. Now that is annoying!

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 4:50 pm
by pigsteak
yes, YOU would rather hear that..but how about your fellow climbers?

"they're better"...another case of misplaced emotions.

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 10:55 am
by Wicked Tribe
Yasmeen wrote:
That's cool, since it's up to you to make that call.
Actually, yes it is.

In my experience, people that complain about the approach every time seem to complain about the climbing, the weather, the bugs, the company, etc., etc. Kinda ruins the mood huh?