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Re: Does plumb make the line?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:21 pm
by RRO
Watching you all try to "stir the pot" or talk shit is like hearing a second grader learn how to cuss...the intent is there but really, it stirs nothing in my man spot....carry on
Re: Does plumb make the line?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:26 pm
by shear
In highly featured places like the red...it's hard for a route NOT to be plumb and direct. But go anywhere else where the features are far less (such as the NRG or places in TN) and you have to follow the features...the bolts can be straightened out, always, but the climbing follows the weakness. Anything else is an eliminate and forced.
Re: Does plumb make the line?
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:28 am
by pigsteak
RRO wrote:Watching you all try to "stir the pot" or talk shit is like hearing a second grader learn how to cuss...the intent is there but really, it stirs nothing in my man spot....carry on
"man spot"...thats just what a second grader would call it.
Re: Does plumb make the line?
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:38 am
by pigsteak
And in 20 plus years i have never even heard "plumb line" used in climbing, except to mean the obvious line when you walk up to a wall. Direction and angle have never played into a line i bolted, not that that is saying much.
And i totally disagree with the assumption that all the features make the rock blend. It is very easy to see lines of weakness before bolting if you know what you are looking at.
Re: Does plumb make the line?
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:42 am
by dustonian
Yeah I am still thinking that guy was confusing "plumb line" (as in a straight vertical drop as water would fall) with "plum line" (as in picking the "plums," or best route or two at a crag)....
In other news, Southern Smoke Direct was flashed today. Good job Ian Kirk!
Re: Does plumb make the line?
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:29 am
by pigsteak
Exactly... plumb line straight down.
Re: Does plumb make the line?
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:09 pm
by pigsteak
and another thing I am unclear on..when brahs talk about climbing in a "sector'..what is that? Like is the motherlode a sector, or is the undertow the sector...or maybe the pmrp is the sector....
of course, I laughed so hard when kiddos started saying 'compression moves"
Re: Does plumb make the line?
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:51 pm
by dustonian
& don't forget this ol' chestnut: "resistance climbing"...
Re: Does plumb make the line?
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:26 pm
by tbwilsonky
well compression actually describes a novel type of movement (crimpy, unclings, pinchy, dynamic, etc.), whereas 'resistance' climbing is obviously redundant; especially when it is set against its arch-nemesis 'difficulty' climbing.
Re: Does plumb make the line?
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:09 pm
by JR
dustonian wrote:Dogleg Left is Semen Deed. One of the best!
http://www.redriverclimbing.com/viewtop ... =5&t=14779
Busted!!!
Sorry, Dustonian "Semen Deed" was coined by me.
I will consider it an homage.