Does plumb make the line?

[RRO]

Watching you all try to "stir the pot" or talk shit is like hearing a second grader learn how to cuss...the intent is there but really, it stirs nothing in my man spot....carry on

[shear]

In highly featured places like the red...it's hard for a route NOT to be plumb and direct. But go anywhere else where the features are far less (such as the NRG or places in TN) and you have to follow the features...the bolts can be straightened out, always, but the climbing follows the weakness. Anything else is an eliminate and forced.

[pigsteak]

Watching you all try to "stir the pot" or talk shit is like hearing a second grader learn how to cuss...the intent is there but really, it stirs nothing in my man spot....carry on

"man spot"...thats just what a second grader would call it.

[pigsteak]

And in 20 plus years i have never even heard "plumb line" used in climbing, except to mean the obvious line when you walk up to a wall. Direction and angle have never played into a line i bolted, not that that is saying much.

And i totally disagree with the assumption that all the features make the rock blend. It is very easy to see lines of weakness before bolting if you know what you are looking at.

[dustonian]

Yeah I am still thinking that guy was confusing "plumb line" (as in a straight vertical drop as water would fall) with "plum line" (as in picking the "plums," or best route or two at a crag)....

In other news, Southern Smoke Direct was flashed today. Good job Ian Kirk!

[pigsteak]

Exactly... plumb line straight down.

[pigsteak]

and another thing I am unclear on..when brahs talk about climbing in a "sector'..what is that? Like is the motherlode a sector, or is the undertow the sector...or maybe the pmrp is the sector....

of course, I laughed so hard when kiddos started saying 'compression moves"

[dustonian]

& don't forget this ol' chestnut: "resistance climbing"...

[tbwilsonky]

well compression actually describes a novel type of movement (crimpy, unclings, pinchy, dynamic, etc.), whereas 'resistance' climbing is obviously redundant; especially when it is set against its arch-nemesis 'difficulty' climbing.

[JR]

Dogleg Left is Semen Deed. One of the best!

http://www.redriverclimbing.com/viewtop ... =5&t=14779

Busted!!!

Sorry, Dustonian "Semen Deed" was coined by me.

I will consider it an homage.