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@toad857, my thoughts exactly...

That thing is a gimmick but I do like the rabbit runners for some climbs because they are so darn fast to setup and take down and super easy to carry. A simple overhand knot and everything is equalized and won't shockload if one piece fails.

the midas touch 123 wrote:extremely curious if anyone has ever had any experience with one of these???

http://www.trango.com/slings_webbing/alpine-equalizer-6'

Hahahaha what the hell? Are people that desensitized to the basics of climbing that they need to purchase this thing?
The rabbit runners are killer though, definitely worth purchasing if you need an anchor setup.

This is all extra shit. Use the rope.

Rabbit runner for the win. Who would use that Trango thing? Why do people keep making stupid devices for rock climbing?

The rabbit runner looks good - light weight and low bulk, but I accomplished the same thing with a simple, hand knotted triple length sling. K.I.S.S. - a good rule to remember. Using the rope is good, but in some situations "using the rope" is not at all desirable, or even possible.

For sale:

http://www.trango.com/slings_webbing/al ... lizer-6%27

Gently used and will sell cheap. Apparently, you can use ropes or rabbits for this sort of thing.

LK Day wrote:Using the rope is good, but in some situations "using the rope" is not at all desirable, or even possible

When would this be Larry. In the pictorial simple example. Rope to climber, clove or alpine butterfly to first and third biners. Overhand the middle two loops and clip the second biner. Easiest to describe in this way, but not the order to do it in. (1) rope tied to climber. (2) pass the rope through all three biners on the 3 pieces of pro. (3) configur system to desired length. (4) put knot on first piece. (5) tie overhand (6) put midline knot on last piece. What could be easier than using the rope?

Larry, can you go back to posting about politics? Anything but this trad stuff...

caribe wrote:

LK Day wrote:Using the rope is good, but in some situations "using the rope" is not at all desirable, or even possible

When would this be Larry. In the pictorial simple example. Rope to climber, clove or alpine butterfly to first and third biners. Overhand the middle two loops and clip the second biner. Easiest to describe in this way, but not the order to do it in. (1) rope tied to climber. (2) pass the rope through all three biners on the 3 pieces of pro. (3) configur system to desired length. (4) put knot on first piece. (5) tie overhand (6) put midline knot on last piece. What could be easier than using the rope?

Caribe - Nothing at all wrong with using the rope in an equalizing anchor. But......,

Not possible when you've stretched the rope and used every last inch just to reach the belay stance.
Not desirable unless you're swinging leads. If one person is leading every pitch it works much better to have a simple, single point tie-in to the anchors. Makes for a quick and safe switch-over from belaying the second to leading once again.