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Hey, this isn't criticism, I'm just stating that based on what I have seen, it can be hard to get climbers to notice ANYTHING. Haven't you ever tried to give someone beta while they are climbing? Use that hold there! What hold? Where? That one, right in front of your face! What hold, I don't see a hold??

kato: the illustration is apropos. I am notorious for not taking beta well. Actually, I won't let most people talk to me when I climb because I get confused. It's pretty funny that I'm such a tard.