Taking fix draws out of twinkie was a mistake

[SCIN]

If i ever found out someone i know outside the climbing world read some of these posts I would be ashamed and I think all of us as climbers should reconsider what the purpose of this forum is.

This site was started to be one of the best bestiality sites on the interwebs and it turned into this shit.

[One-Fall]

I blame the moderators.

[caribe]

This is less moral / ethical ambiguity and more an aesthetic / personal polemic. Sport jocks could do with a dose of commitment. If you are too lazy to hang draws, what else can the community expect out of you comrade? If you are not giving back, you are not an asset; you are a liability. Assets come in to open arms; the welcome is not so effusive to the liabilities. If you think this is a problem, rest assured it is not a modern one. It has been played repeatedly in primate troops over the last tens of millions of years.

[toad857]

how will we acquire new bail-biners if there are perma draws on everything?

i shall return to twinkie on a weekly basis to add to my collection

[climb2core]

Bail biners on twinkie??? Where is the stopper crux?

[bcombs]

Bail biners on twinkie??? Where is the stopper crux?

Second bolt.

[pawilkes]

with a decent stick clip and the know how to use it, you don't even need to take a big swing at the end. It would be nice to have a single cleaning draw somewhere on the route though.

[Saxman]

Or just use a fifi hook.

[vertical1]

Acquired my fifi Saturday.

[Redpoint]

I am very sad they are gone, but I understand it had to be done.