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anticlmber wrote: strevels-v4(if youve been bouldering, not as bad)

i don't get it... so if you boulder the scale is lower. "it's v4 for you but i've been bouldering so it's only a v2 for me."

its v4, but feels harder than that if you've only been route climbing.
most of the 12a's i can think of are just chugging along, a lot of the 12b's are a kick in the nuts if thats all you've been doing.

tried this thing once, got shut down bad. left to go set in NC for a week, came back and destroyed it.

also the holds are just odd.

Any input on the start of Infectious, or Stay the Hand?

Meadows wrote:Where is the "definite" crux on High Hard One?

Sorry, I was thinking of Crime Time. High Hard One is sort of hard at the 2nd bolt but not that bad.

vertical1 wrote:Any input on the start of Infectious?

v4+

Maybe a bit height dependent, and definitely easier once you figure out the beta.

Ro - V2
Infectious - V3
Samurai - V3/4
Tissue Tiger - V2
Iniquity (Start) - V4
Iniquity (Upper Crux) - V2
Hellraiser - V4
Buff the Wood - V2/3
Jet Lag - V3 (i'm joking... this is a knock on myself)
......I'm all for the downgrades! Let's not let peoples egos get too big! When someone says boulder problem I think about the crux of a route if I do it off the ground... If you climb 60 feet of 5.11 climbing and then do a V3 crux... it might feel like a V5, but it's not!

Tissue Tiger – V3
Tuskan Raider - V5
Jersey Connection-2/3
wild yet tasty-v2
jesus wept-technical v3
table of colors-v5/6
strevels gets in shape-v4
The Legend-v6/7
Nagypapa-v8/9
gung ho-v2
infectiousv2
blood bath (low percentage) v4
mama benson-v3
kaleidoscope-v5
hoofmaker-v4
tic tac toe- v3

Pogue Ethics - V0 But I've heard that's only if you go directly up the center of the crux. Left is probably 5.6 climbing, and the right felt like 5.9+.

http://www.muscatatuckpark.com/grades.htm

What is Strevels to the first set of anchors?

12b or V5 for me.